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johnlear
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 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: Apollo 1 Fire: NASA Lied |
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Apollo 1 Fire: NASA Lied
The Trashing of Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom
In a book published and copyrighted (2007) by the Board of Regents of the University of Nebraska (all rights reserved)ISBN-13:978-0-8032-1128-5 called "In the Shadow of the Moon, A Challenging Journey to Tranquility, 1965-1969" authors Francis French and Colin Burgess help NASA twist their NAZI dagger already in Gus Grissom's back. Before this book, NASA was content just to have stabbed him to death.
It will take me a few days to write this as I want to be as fair as possible to those murderous NASA NAZI's who allowed Gus and three other astronauts to be killed in Apollo 1 then to have systematically trashed his memory of outspoken engineering excellence with innuendo and lies.
I also want to explain who the fourth astronaut was in with Grissom, White and Chaffee. He was part of NASA's secret astronaut corps.
The murder/accident occurred over 41 years ago at the Cape and there are still people alive today who were in that control room and heard Gus's probable last words from Apollo Spacecraft 012, level 8, Pad 34, 6:31 pm EDT, January 27, 1967:
“You killed me you S.O.B.’s…I told you this thing was a lemon and now you've killed all of us. Are you happy? Maybe now you’ll redesign this friggin’ coffin. Watch us die you m------ f-----’s. I hope you all rot in hell….”
I say probable last words because NASA says, depending on which story you believe, he either said "Hey", "Fire" or nothing. Not very likely. Gus reamed them a new one in the 17 to 15 seconds he had left remaining of his life and that is probably the gist.
Stay tuned.
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OSSkyWatcher
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Apollo 1 Fire: NASA Lied |
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| johnlear wrote: |
It will take me a few days to write this
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i can't wait
although this is the first time you have ever said NAZI instead of NAZA?
why the change of heart? you must have learned something recently that really bothered you about this |
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johnlear
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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The NASA Nazi's hated Gus Grissom.
Gus was one of the original Mercury 7. He was instrumental of the design of Gemini and flew Gemini 3.
Gus was then assigned to Apollo 1 and spent a lot of time in Downey, California where the spacecraft was being designed and assembled.
He didn't like what he saw. Nobody was paying attention to details. Many would work during the morning and hit the bars at lunchtime coming back to work slightly inebriated. He saw both management and many technicians were incompetent and nobody was watching the store.
NASA for their part wanted results and didn't want anybody making waves or badmouthing the program. Grissom was doing both.
Suggestions for changes took forever if at all. North American, the prime contractor was understaffed and studded with inexperienced people.
Joe Shea who was the head of ASPO (Apollo Spacecraft Program Office) at the time said, "I do not have a high opinion of North American and their motives in the early days. I think they were more interested in the financial aspects of the program than in the technical content of the program. I think that Storms (Stormy Storms, General Manager North American Space Division) was a very bad general manager. I think Atwood (North American's president) had dollar sign in his eyes. Their first program manager was a first class jerk…"
From "Apollo: The Race to the Moon" Charles Murray and Catherine Bly Cox Copyright 1989 Murray and Cox:
| Quote: | On August 19, 1966, spacecraft number 012, the first Apollo designated for a manned mission, was ready for the Contractor's Acceptance Readiness Review (CARR). Joe Shea presided over the meeting.
The astronauts who would fly 012 (Apollo 1) were there: Gus Grissom, one of the original seven astronauts and the second American to fly in space; Ed White, the first man to walk in space; and a rookie astronaut, Roger Chaffee. Also present were Faget, representing Engineering, Chris Kraft, representing Flight Operations, and a dozen other senior people from Houston (NASA), plus all the senior North American executives responsible for the C.S.M (Command and Service Module) contract.
Shea opened the meeting by saying "This is not a meeting to bring up old bitches. It’s a meeting specifically concerned with spacecraft 012 and its suitability to leave the plant and begin the checkout procedures and booster mating procedures down at the Cape." He cautioned everyone not to get "ourselves all tangled up between design changes and the specific checkout of this spacecraft as it is presently configured. |
Nevertheless the meeting went of for a good 6 hours.
| Quote: | As the meeting was winding down, Gus Grissom asked for the floor and pulled out two photographs from a large envelope. They were identical, but with different inscriptions. The picture showed Grissom, White and Chaffee seated behind a table on which a small model of the Apollo capsule rested.
Their heads where bowed, hands steepled in a caricature of prayer. Grissom gave the first copy to Stormy Storms, general manager of the North American Space Division. "We've got one for Joe Shea also," Grissom said, and passed the second photograph down the table to him. |
NASA was livid.
| Quote: | Joe advised us to practice our backup procedures religiously, so here we are practicing." There was loud laughter. The picture, signed by all three astronauts, was inscribed, "It isn't that we don't trust you, Joe, but this time we've decided to go over your head."
Throughout the next few months the extreme flammability of materials in the cabin were discussed along with a suggestion to provide a fire extinguisher. Neither of these issues were addressed.
Shea made a hand written memo, "The problem is sticky-we think we have enough margin to keep fire from starting-if one ever does, we do have problems. Suitable extinguishing agents are not yet developed." |
Somewhere around this time Grissom had hung a lemon over the top of 012 as a sign of his disgust with it. He also made the comment, "This thing isn't going to the moon in 2 years, its not going to the moon in 10 years."
January 27, 1967 was scheduled as a plugs out test of the spacecraft. Plugs out means that all external connections are removed to see if the spacecraft can function independently as would be required after lift off on a real launch. Some think that this was an actual attempt to launch, it wasn't.
During all of these tests a fourth crewmember was always in the spacecraft for technical support. Sometimes it was Joe Shea, sometimes it was a technician for a specific problem, sometimes it was another astronaut. Sometimes that astronaut would be from NASA's secret astronaut corps.
NASA's secret astronaut corps flew spacecraft completely unknown to the public on missions to the Moon and Mars and other planets in a completely separate space program.
The Mercury, Gemini and Apollo space program was a diversion or 'cover' for the real space program that was hidden from the public.
The fourth crewmember lays with his feet in the lower equipment bay by the E.C.U. with his head resting against the center console. His body is positioned 180 degrees from those of the three astronauts in their seats.
On Friday, January 27, 1967 the fourth crewmember was from the secret astronaut corps and was helping the Apollo crew sort through some of their problems.
The official NASA story which changes slightly over the years is that Wally Schirra, who was backup commander for Grissom asked Joe Shea if it wouldn't be possible to hook up a fourth communications system so that a fourth crewmember might sit in the capsule with the primary crew.
NASA's cover story is that Shea liked the idea but that technicians were not able to hook something like that up in time.
The cover story goes on to elaborate that Grissom wanted Shea in the spacecraft that afternoon regardless of whether or not Shea would have communications.
Shea is to have allegedly responded, "You think I am going to sit at your feet for 4 hours and not be able to communicate? You're nuts. You go through the test; I'll go back to Houston and I'll come back on Monday and do it in the simulator with you."
This fictional account is to cover up that there always had been a fourth crewmember in the capsule during the tests. And were it not for the fact that the fourth crewmember on January 27, 1967 was one of the secret astronauts the truth might have been told to the public.
But since the fourth crewmember was a member of the secret astronaut corps and the exposure of his existence would put that secret program in danger of being revealed it had to be covered up and it had to be covered up forever.
Shea left for Houston about the time Grissom, White, Chaffee and the secret astronaut were being sealed in Apollo 1 on level A8, Pad 34.
The plugs out test dragged on all afternoon with one problem after another. A little after 1 pm Grissom smelled something odd in his environmental control system suit-oxygen loop. A sour smell, like buttermilk. A sample was taken by the crew. Shortly after a voice link problem between the capsule and the Manned Operations building, about 5 miles away began to occur.
Grissom let his feelings be known in no uncertain terms and asked, with a certain amount of profanity how in the heck were they going to get to the moon when they couldn't even talk between 2 buildings on earth?
There were probably a few NASA Nazi's who knew Grissom was correct. They probably realized that the entire Apollo program had to stand down and reorganize. And they hated Grissom for making it obvious that NASA itself was guilty of mismanagement if not outright incompetence.
I suspect that the plan was to cause an accident so horrific it would require just that, the total stand down and reorganization of the Apollo program. It would buy them the time they needed to reorganize and they would blame it all on Grissom, 'that son of a bitch'.
The fire started at 6:31 pm Eastern time. It took about 2 minutes for all four crewmembers to die. Contrary to what NASA has publicly stated there was a television camera pointed at the crew and it was where everyone in MOCR (Houston) and the blockhouse (KSC) could see it. Every single person watched the 4 crewmembers of Apollo 1 burn to death. They also heard every word that Gus Grissom said which was probably something like this:
“You killed me you S.O.B.’s…I told you this thing was a lemon and now you've killed all of us. Are you happy? Maybe now you’ll redesign this friggin’ coffin. Watch us die you m------ f-----’s. I hope you all rot in hell….”
The reason I say probably is because NASA has sanitized the accident report so that no one, other than those in the Manned Operations building will ever know what was really said.
At 6:39 the hatch was opened in the smoldering spacecraft and the crew was confirmed as dead.
The National Security Agency sealed off the area and immediately prepared to remove the body of the secret astronaut before turning over the spacecraft back over to NASA.
NSA crews had to pick through the remains of Grissom, White and Chaffee and the debris of the still smoldering spacecraft to get to the secret astronaut. They bagged bits and pieces, head, torso, various limbs and appendages of the still smoldering single crewmember whose very existence could not be acknowledged.
It took NSA about 45 minutes to remove the body after which they turned the smoking hulk back over to NASA.
After proper and respectful burials of Grissom, White and Chaffee and a substantial payoff to the family of the secret astronaut, the Apollo Program went into stand down and was totally reorganized.
And the trashing of Virgil I. "Gus" Grissom began.
In the 2007 Apollogia "In the Shadow of the Moon" French and Burgess write about the final seconds of the crew (Page 159):
Paul Haney, head of NASA's Public Affairs Office, Houston
[quote] I do recall Chaffee saying, "It's a bad fire. We are burning up." This was followed by a scream lasting a second or two. It sounded like it cold have been two men screaming; other persons theorized that it sounded like White as well as Chaffee. Gus never said a word.[/quote
Right. Gus never said a word? What are those chances?
Scott Simkinson, the engineer in charge of disassembling the burnt-out spacecraft states in "Apollo: The Race to the Moon" Charles Murray and Catherine Bly Cox Copyright 1989 Murray and Cox helped NASA twist the knife in Grissoms' back thusly:
| Quote: | Of course, I have my own opinion, which was shared by many of the people on the board. The commander (Grissom) was on the left (and) in the spacecraft beside him was a compartment of lithium hydroxide, which takes out the CO2 so the crew can rebreathe the oxygen. It had a metal door with sharp edge.
The door opened into the Environmental Control Unit (E.C.U.). Just underneath it was a cable, part of the instrumentation harness. The cable was wedged against the bottom of the door by other bundles of wires beneath it. Each time the door was pushed shut, the edge of the metal door scraped against the cable. The slight but repeated abrasion had exposed two tiny sections of wire in the cable. Something-maybe Grissom opened the door-caused a brief electrical arc between the exposed portions of the wire.
Even with the pure oxygen environment, the spark from a short would not have caused a conflagration. But it also happened that, just below the two scuffs in the cable, a length of aluminum tubing took a ninety-degree turn. This particular ninety-degree corner joint, probably had sprung a leak. The joint had passed redundant inspections but it had been subject to 'creep' from stress at remote points in the system-the spacecraft as constantly being worked on, and things got bumped around. Certainly even a small leak would help explain what happened, because the tubing carried glycol cooling fluid which when exposed to air, turned into fumes. The liquid is not flammable, but the fumes were. |
A truly disingenuous, twisted, fabricated hypothesis: 'Something, maybe Grissom'...'but it also happened that'…'subject to creep'..'things got bumped around…would help explain what happened'.
The NASA Nazi's then twist the knife in Grissom's back:
From "The Moonlandings" Reginald Turnhill, Cambridge University Press, Copyright Reginald Turnhill 2003:
| Quote: | | It was ironic that the ability to punch the hatch open with an explosive charge had been removed in favor of a manual system after Grissom's insistence that when he was bobbing on the sea awaiting the recovery team at the end of his Mercury mission the hatch cover jettison mechanism has exploded spontaneously, so that he had to swim for his life. |
A extraordinarily cheap shot at Grissom.
Then, in last years Apollo book, "In The Shadow Of The Moon; a Challenging Journey to Tranquility, 1965-1969" Francis French and Colin Burgess, (Copyright 2007 by the Board of Regents of the University of Nebraska), NASA executes a mighty 40 year old vendetta against Gus Grissom (Page 148):
| Quote: | Although it cannot be substantiated, strong circumstantial evidence suggests that Grissom tried to tackle the communication problems by locating and changing a cobra cable inside the spacecraft. The cable was a sheathed, multiwire communication cable that connected each astronaut to the instrument panel, which the crewmember could only unplug by turning a ring backward and then pulling on it with substantial force.
In actions later 'verified by NASA's investigation', Grissom unbuckled his seat harness and disconnected his cobra cable. 'Reliable expert opinion' says he then eased himself down into the lower equipment bay, beneath the feat of White and Chaffee, to replace the cable with another.
Elsewhere in the spacecraft, it is thought that a brief electrical arc flashed between two bare segments of wire. It was enough to ignite the spacecraft's fittings, which had been permeated by pure oxygen for several hours. Some flammable Raschel netting beneath and to the left of Grissom's empty couch sparked and began to smolder. It developed a hot spot, which rapidly spread, and glowed brightly in the pure oxygen environment. |
Of course, this dishonest account of the sequence of events assumes that we don't know that there is a fourth crewmember down in the lower equipment bay where Grissom is supposed to have climbed.
The NASA Nazi's thought that they could get away with this outrageous attack on Grissoms' integrity because they didn't think anybody knew about the fourth astronaut in the lower equipment bay. So NASA's bogus story about Grissom, in full dress spacesuit, climbing over Chaffee and White without any recorded explanation and squeezing into the lower equipment bay already occupied by another astronaut is beyond fabrication. It is deceitful in the extreme to attempt to trash the integrity of Gus Grissom with NASA's prevarication.
Obviously it was the fourth astronaut who accidentally or otherwise caused the fire that killed them all.
It is a curious fact that while Grissom, White, Chaffee and the secret astronaut were burning to death on level A8, Pad 34, the top executives of the whole Apollo Program, Webb, von Braun, Gilruth, Debus, Phillips, Mueller, plus the chief executives of the companies that held the prime contracts for Apollo-North American, Grumman, Boeing, Martin, Douglas, McDonnell were all together, in one room, at the International Club on 19th street in Washington, D.C. celebrating a successful 'space treaty' signing in the East Room of the White House earlier that afternoon. |
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factor352
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| Gus Grissom's death affected me deeply as a kid in the 60's.This was a time when the name "Nasa" made all our eyes big and round with wonder.Gus was someone i latched onto as a kid as MY hero.I have to wonder what would happen if the astronauts decided to spill their guts.Or do they even have any guts to spill,Do they even remember what they saw? |
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Down Syndrome Adonis
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| johnlear wrote: |
It is a curious fact that while Grissom, White, Chaffee and the secret astronaut were burning to death on level A8, Pad 34, the top executives of the whole Apollo Program, Webb, von Braun, Gilruth, Debus, Phillips, Mueller, plus the chief executives of the companies that held the prime contracts for Apollo-North American, Grumman, Boeing, Martin, Douglas, McDonnell were all together, in one room, at the International Club on 19th street in Washington, D.C. celebrating a successful 'space treaty' signing in the East Room of the White House earlier that afternoon. |
Could you please elaborate on this "space treaty"?
Thanks very much!
Regards, DSA
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