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 Post Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject:
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A couple of years ago I was looking at some farside photos taken by Lunar Orbiter. The photo below is centered on 175 degrees East longitude about 45 degrees south. There are some very odd artifacts in this photo.

First take a look at the photo. I have added the names of the more significant craters.



Now here is a view looking east to west over the area.



Now here is an enlarged photo of one of the areas I find interesting. Look at the center of this photo. Do you see that black ellipse just to the right of center? Somebody wanted you to think that was a crater but it is not. That ellipse hides something.



Now here is a real close up of the area. Of course I am joking with my labels because the area from one side of the photo to the other is about 25 miles. But look at those structures!




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 Post Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject:
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About 400 miles north of the crater we looked at yesterday is Mare Ingenii.

I'd like to tell you a little about Mare Ingenii but its one of those Mares you look at and you mind says "What in the heck is going on here? What am I looking at?"

You wonder if you are looking at an airbrushed photo or is just dirt blowing around or just what the heck is going on?

Here is Mare Ingenii in relation to the place we looked at yesterday.



Now here is an enlargment of Mare Ingenii and I put a few arrows at the places that I have a question about.



And now I am going to post an enlargement of Mare Ingenii without any arrows or anything to distract you.

If you can help me figure out what is going on in this photo I would appreciate it.

And for those of you who only see rocks I have a question. How do those rocks get so high in the air? There is not supposed to be any air?

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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: The case for the civilization on the Moon
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in the crater Aristarchus, we can see what appears to be a huge, 24 miles diameter, hexagonal, dome shaped structure, emitting or surrounded by a strange blue glow.



This blue glow has been described by one nuclear physicist as the Cherenkov Effect which is the result of radiation coming in contact with molecules of air.


That picture is amazing. How doesn't something like this reach the news? Question, does this blue glow effect ever happen here on Earth with our nuclear reactors?
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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: The case for the civilization on the Moon
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johnlear wrote:


That picture is amazing. How doesn't something like this reach the news? Question, does this blue glow effect ever happen here on Earth with our nuclear reactors?


Of course, it is called the Cerenkov effect and is electromagnetic radiation emitted when a charged particle (such as a proton) passes through an insulator at a speed greater than the speed of light in that medium. The characteristic "blue glow" of nuclear reactors is due to Čerenkov radiation. It is named after Russian scientist Pavel Alekseyevich Čerenkov, the 1958 Nobel Prize winner who was the first to characterise it rigorously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation

Why doesn't something like this reach the news? Are you kidding? The news is busy reporting killing Iraqis to bring them Democracy. Now what is more important?
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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: The case for the civilization on the Moon
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johnlear wrote:


That picture is amazing. How doesn't something like this reach the news? Question, does this blue glow effect ever happen here on Earth with our nuclear reactors?


Of course, it is called the Cerenkov effect and is electromagnetic radiation emitted when a charged particle (such as a proton) passes through an insulator at a speed greater than the speed of light in that medium. The characteristic "blue glow" of nuclear reactors is due to Čerenkov radiation. It is named after Russian scientist Pavel Alekseyevich Čerenkov, the 1958 Nobel Prize winner who was the first to characterise it rigorously.


Thanks for the information. Its a shame that no closer views of this possible reactor have leaked onto the Internet. It's obvious that this thing isn't natural. My question now is first, could it be something other than a reactor and second, who put it there?

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Why doesn't something like this reach the news? Are you kidding? The news is busy reporting killing Iraqis to bring them Democracy. Now what is more important?


Oh I think they're killing Iraqis for more than an idea but that's off topic. There are more proper news media outlets for this kind of discovery, it just boggles my mind why somebody out there isn't talking about this on the air. I guess its just further proof of how obsolete television is becoming.
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 Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject:
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And for those of you who only see rocks I have a question. How do those rocks get so high in the air? There is not supposed to be any air?



Upon further enlargement:




I'm not sure what it is but it certainly looks strange. How many miles long would such a feature have to be?
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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject:
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There seems to be a great going on in that picture.

The first thing that grabbed me was the "merman" left of center:



And look across to the right side of that section and there are several
odd structures visible.  And just below the merman too.

The dark masses in the center look like smoke or dust clouds to me:



maybe from mining?  Industrial exhaust?  Fire?
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject:
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I just came up with a reason that might explain why the moon is where it is and why aliens may have towed it into our orbit.  It would also explain why their might be a fusion generator and a zillion earth side impact craters that don't really make sense.

Many of the craters are actually engines that can provide thrust in various angles to move the moon around.

The purpose of the fusion generator is to provide power to these engines

The purpose of the moon is to wipe out the planet when the aliens want a 'do-over' aka our flood myths.

When the aliens decide that it is time to go back to the drawing board (lets say they go and fix our dna again and don't want any current people to pollute the gene pool), here is the procedure:

1) bring the humans/animals that get to make it to the next round up to the moon, whack their dna (aka the Ark/Gilgamesh story)
2) fire up the old moon engine and get that sucker whipping around the earth, causing the ocean to freak out and just destroy everything.  I bet if you get the moon going fast enough you can build a 'lump' of water that is taller than everest and will just whip around the planet, destroying everything in its path.  
3) once they are satisfied that the destruction is complete, they send the remaining fixed humans/animals down to a new 'garden of eden' and let the process start again.

this is what makes the most sense to me for a towed into orbit moon.  My earlier thought that it may be a resource platform for us to build a colony ship doesn't really make a lot of sense the more I think about it.  Aliens have obviously already overcome that obstacle and could easily provide us with a colony ship if they were interested in us colonizing other planets.

My guess is the moon/ocean is the easiest way to hit the reset button.
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kungfu wrote:
I just came up with a reason that might explain why the moon is where it is and why aliens may have towed it into our orbit.  It would also explain why their might be a fusion generator and a zillion earth side impact craters that don't really make sense.

Many of the craters are actually engines that can provide thrust in various angles to move the moon around.

The purpose of the fusion generator is to provide power to these engines

The purpose of the moon is to wipe out the planet when the aliens want a 'do-over' aka our flood myths.

When the aliens decide that it is time to go back to the drawing board (lets say they go and fix our dna again and don't want any current people to pollute the gene pool), here is the procedure:

1) bring the humans/animals that get to make it to the next round up to the moon, whack their dna (aka the Ark/Gilgamesh story)
2) fire up the old moon engine and get that sucker whipping around the earth, causing the ocean to freak out and just destroy everything.  I bet if you get the moon going fast enough you can build a 'lump' of water that is taller than everest and will just whip around the planet, destroying everything in its path.  
3) once they are satisfied that the destruction is complete, they send the remaining fixed humans/animals down to a new 'garden of eden' and let the process start again.

this is what makes the most sense to me for a towed into orbit moon.  My earlier thought that it may be a resource platform for us to build a colony ship doesn't really make a lot of sense the more I think about it.  Aliens have obviously already overcome that obstacle and could easily provide us with a colony ship if they were interested in us colonizing other planets.

My guess is the moon/ocean is the easiest way to hit the reset button.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHbnM_42mQE

thought this was kind of a cool watch

my theory just expands on what this guy is saying in that rather than let a type 0 civ destroy the planet, they use the moon to drown us all, then tweak our genes and start over.

this makes a lot of sense actually perhaps instead of the "soul container" thing being a literal idea, rather it is the concept of us being spiritually able to progress past type 0 civ and the point of the type 3 civ being here is to help us get past type 0

makes a ton of sense


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