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The Weaponization of Space; 1968-2008

The Weaponizaton of Space 1968-2008:
Earths Secret War

I first heard the term "Earths Secret War" from a member of an elite Pentagon Security Guard Team whose post was at the door of the secret "Vault" in deep in the bowels of the Pentagon.

Although personnel are not supposed to talk about sensitive subjects until that door is sealed shut there was an occasion where the door was still being closed and part of a conversation taking place inside was heard:

"So how is Earths secret war coming along?"

"It's hopeless," was the response.

For the past 40 years the U.S. has secretly weaponized low earth orbit space with high tech Direct Energy and other related weapons.

Currently there is estimated to be between 8 and 12 large DEW platforms manned by a secret army of astronauts which may total 4000 experienced men and women drawn from the Air Force, Navy and Army.

The primary purpose for these weaponized space stations is the utterly ignorant notion that these weapons can neutralize the so-called 'grays'.

In their supremely arrogant and pompous ignorance the secret military tribunal that concocted this costly mistake in the secret chamber deep in the bowels of the Pentagon (which has every kind of secret counter-eavesdropping device known to man), it was determined over forty years ago that the 'grays' were a threat to humanity and therefore our primary enemy.

Conceived, designed, constructed, launched and deployed in total secrecy these enormous platforms have extremely high tech weapons which have not killed any 'grays' but on September 11, 2001 killed over 3000 Americans, the very people they are allegedly trying to protect. Not to mention these Direct Energy Weapons were probably used in the Gulf War, Oklahoma City (Murrah building), Chernobyl, Waco, Minneapolis, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably in some form aided and abetted Katrina and the tidal wave in Southeast Asia.

There are a few insiders who know the truth about this operation and the folly it has become but because of the complexity and utter disbelief that this could have gone on so long without the public finding out it is difficult to rally support for its halt and dismantlization.

As a matter of fact, at this point it seems impossible.

Were it not for ultimate goal of this arrogant and pompous tribunal I would not even suggest trying.

But here is the goal.  And the kicker. This tribunal truly believes that the 'grays' are such of threat that they have unilaterally decided that either they get rid of the 'grays' or 'nobody is going to have Earth' which means specifically that they fully intend to eliminate all life on Earth, except theirs of course.

I have good information that as far back as 1988 we had a bomb that could have destroyed an area as large as half the size of the South American continent.

I also have good information that there is currently at least one project that has the capability of destroying all life on Earth.

You have to wonder what kind of psychologically deranged military group would make a decision to destroy all life on Earth so that 'nobody' would have the 'prize'.

In fact, that was exactly the threat that a scientist in a top secret government facility heard being uttered in 1988:

"Either you help us get rid of the 'grays' or nobody is going to have Earth."

It's possible that this group was formed by 'born again Christians' or other religious zealot whacko's who believe their God is the only God and that the grays must be the 'work of the devil'.

But here is the good news. These military/religious/moron whackos are not going to get away with it. They will be neutralized and life will go on.

Sure there will be your day to day wars, maybe a nuke here and there.

But the phony 'war on terror' will be exposed for the expensive both in terms of dollars and human lives fraud that it is. The 'war on terror' was founded on fabricated fraud and continues to be hustled against those fictitious terrorists who exist only in the minds our fanatical military tribunal morons.

Islamo-Fascist in a U.S. Secret Military Tribunal coined word to make Moslems 'the enemy'. Moslems are no more our enemy than Christo-Fascists or Buddha-Fascists.

Sure, there are terrorists. But they are not the nearly one million we have murdered in Iraq. To find the real terrorists you have to look no further than your own U.S. Secret Military Tribunal and, of course Israel, who runs a close second in the export of terrorism around the world.

In fact, the 'grays' are here as 'maintenance men'. They maintain the 'containers'. We are the containers, and what we contain are priceless 'souls'.

Souls that in most cases go on forever in various incarnations.

And there are billions of billions of 'Earths' just like ours, some more developed, some less developed, in a limitless universe.

And here is further good news. You are not responsible, nor can you stop the madness that infects earth.  But what you can do is this: try to live your life without envy, hate or greed. Try to live your life with integrity. Tell each member of your family how much you love them. And do that everyday.

Life is a series of challenges and its how you meet those challenges that counts. Meet each challenge without envy, hate or greed and maintain your personal integrity.

Remember that the solution to Earths madness all starts with YOU.
ramjet

Structure of space/time

Dear John
It is years since we both got in contact back when you still had a Compuserve email address. You told me about the mechanics and technics of UFO technology and those gravity waves.
In the meantime I found some interesting new physics theory that may hold the secret to understanding a lot more.

String theory talks about multidimensional space (about 12 dimensions) and that there are many unfolded dimensions.
A french physisicst named Jean E. Charon is much closer to the truth, because he found that space is just the real 3+1 dimensional space (x,y,z, and t) PLUS an imaginary part of another 3+1 dimensions (ix,iy,iz,it). The most natural extension of space possible. The discovery of the complex number x+iy brought very fruitful discoveries to the field of mathematics.
When applying this extended space to all the important formulas of physics, he discovered that the secret lies within the electron particle. The electron - a particle with no space but still mass and charge - has a complex inner structure just like the black holes. That inner structure gives the charge and mass because it is pulsating and all the electrons inner complex space is interconnected because there is a different "distance" measurement. This will explain the Bell principle and might be the clue too to inter gallactic large scale travels.
Many more effects become easy to understand like where the "hidden" information would be stored in homeopatic substances.

The space/time will expand then to 8 coordinates by which 4 would be "complex" in the mathematical sense.

Take care and all the best
Rolf
Equilibrium

Hello Ramjet and John,

Ramjets reply made eager to reply to his post.
It was him mentioning the electron.
I would like to start a explanation of the makeup up physical matter, according to my understanding. Please feel free to move my reply to a new thread.
There was a small book that gave me some insight to this matter:
"Field Effect - The Pi Phase of Physics" by Liegh Richmond Donahue. The content of this little book goes pretty much along with what i have learned. I would like to explain this matter with my own words.


The physical universe.
In order to have physis, we must have a stable particle. Not a bunch particles that we can observe just for femtoseconds in a particlecolider - but rather a stable particle that we can build a physical universe.

But befor we can talk about the electron we first have to talk about the enviroment in witch the electron is existing - is created. I prefer to call it the Void, some like to name it the ether.

What is this Void? If we observe a clear nightsky, and , in our imagination, substract the stars - make them disapear - all thatwould be left would be a darkblue background, and i think a nice description would be for this "The backdrop of forever" - The Void. OK i admit, doesnt sound spectacular but anyway. (Dang iget tired withmy brokenSpacebar onmy keyboard so dont makeme fix all this gramma:)
This "Void" is as i personaly prefer to describe : One vast nothing materialy, but all things potentially.

In order to create a electron we must have a "Observer" that collabses out of the ether nothing into something- how does this work?

I have to skip to a point where i can remember : A tiny thread is created moving through Space/Void ,if we want to see it like that, in a linear direction. The denser the focus of the observer, the slower the head of this thread becomes while at the same time the ether/void itself builds up, infront of the thread head, a wall - like a wave. The following, is i am convinced today, is the Ourobous- The snake that bites its tail. The slowing down of the front part of the thread leads to a bending of the thread in such a fashion that the tail meets the head becouse of the wall that is build up infront.

Now, this thread all the while has a rotation along its axis. Moving through the void it creates ripples in the void along its way- we can use a model like the Right Hand Rule, or left Hand, witch one doesnt matter now. Important for the understanding of the anatomy of a electron is to keep in mind that once the tail meets the head it not only "screws" itself into itself, but the rotation of the thread keeps moving the ether/void. Let us see this movement a magnetic field. Once the thread has formed into a circle - a donought shapead structure - the field that is moved - we have to imagine a halfcut apple - the outer shape of the apple pretty much resembles the shape of the field that this circle is creating.

Now, this circle has not only a rotation along its axis but also rotates itself.
Lets go back to the event as the thread-tail meet the head. The "screwing-in" of this thing continous - it becomes, in its diameter smaler and smaler until the point where the inner diameter can not become smaller becouse - remember it is rotating along its axis - it is moving and dealing with the void/eather - It will stop at a certain diameter to become smaler becouse the eather/void otherwise can not fit though the centerhole, and the circle will rest at this dimension.

In  this shape, the electron has two poles, a Jet, and a suction- kind of a tiny black hole. And it is moving through space. The rotation of its core creates at one end a Jet and on the other end a suction - it moves prettymuch like a Jetturbine through space.

What happens if two electrons collide, one electrons Jet pulled into one other electrons suction ? It will be pulled into the others "body", and the two centers willrest in close proximity. Depending on the direction of the fields and numbers of electrons merging, we will see protons and neutrons created.

The magnetic fields created by this body extend out the Jets center and curve at a distance, around the centers body, back flowing in the suctionpoint. - The Field, it really looks like a half-cut apple. This field itself additionaly has a rotation 90degrees shifted, it spirals out of the jet to the maximum diameter and continous to spiral towards the suction-entrance.

I know it hard todecribe with words. I hope i didnt boredome this forum Wink

I will stop here becouse , i am a really lazy person and cant remember much of other details. But i am courious what your thought are.


EQ


Edited April 02 2008:

I should have started with :

Hello Ramjet and Mr. Lear

EQ
ramjet

Dear Equilibrium,
Thank you for your reply. This sounds interesting and I guess the electron might be the key to understanding matter and the interaction with space/time.
I guess I will have to dig deeper into the theory of Jean E. Charon especially since John mentioned how to use Element 115 to bend space/time. Somehow his should show up in the theory.

There are many obvious things in physics that are still missing explanation - one of them how paricles can "talk" to each other instantaneous over large distances.
Then there must also be an explanation how "life" is interacting with matter and why living matter will always tend to lower Entropy and dead matter to higher Entropy.

All the best and regards
Rolf
johnlear

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Now, this thread all the while has a rotation along its axis. Moving through the void it creates ripples in the void along its way- we can use a model like the Right Hand Rule, or left Hand, witch one doesnt matter now. Important for the understanding of the anatomy of a electron is to keep in mind that once the tail meets the head it not only "screws" itself into itself, but the rotation of the thread keeps moving the ether/void. Let us see this movement a magnetic field. Once the thread has formed into a circle - a donought shapead structure - the field that is moved - we have to imagine a halfcut apple - the outer shape of the apple pretty much resembles the shape of the field that this circle is creating.

Now, this circle has not only a rotation along its axis but also rotates itself.
Lets go back to the event as the thread-tail meet the head. The "screwing-in" of this thing continous - it becomes, in its diameter smaler and smaler until the point where the inner diameter can not become smaller becouse - remember it is rotating along its axis - it is moving and dealing with the void/eather - It will stop at a certain diameter to become smaler becouse the eather/void otherwise can not fit though the centerhole, and the circle will rest at this dimension.

In  this shape, the electron has two poles, a Jet, and a suction- kind of a tiny black hole. And it is moving through space. The rotation of its core creates at one end a Jet and on the other end a suction - it moves prettymuch like a Jetturbine through space.

What happens if two electrons collide, one electrons Jet pulled into one other electrons suction ? It will be pulled into the others "body", and the two centers willrest in close proximity. Depending on the direction of the fields and numbers of electrons merging, we will see protons and neutrons created.

The magnetic fields created by this body extend out the Jets center and curve at a distance, around the centers body, back flowing in the suctionpoint. - The Field, it really looks like a half-cut apple. This field itself additionaly has a rotation 90degrees shifted, it spirals out of the jet to the maximum diameter and continous to spiral towards the suction-entrance.

I know it hard todecribe with words. I hope i didnt boredome this forum Wink

I will stop here becouse , i am a really lazy person and cant remember much of other details. But i am courious what your thought are.



Interesting EQ.

All matter in our part of the universe is made up from SMU's and chargons which bind to it.

The SMU (singular mass unit) is the smallest unit of matter known. At least in our part of the universe. Chargons, which have a charge of -1/3 or +1/3 bind to SMU's by the Gravity "A" wave of 7.46 Hz in orbits separated by 120 degrees.



All full atoms have exactly the same number of positive chargons as negative chargons. All matter is made up of protons, neutrons and electrons which themselves are made up by quarks.

The quarks are either an up quark or a down quark and themselves are made up of one smu and 2 positive chargons for the up quark and 1 smu and 1 negative chargon for the down quark.



An electron is made up by 3 negative chargons by themselves (without an smu) which gives it a net charge of minus 1. (3 x -1/3).



A neutron is made up of 1 up quark and 2 down quarks. The up quark is made up of 1 smu and 2 positive chargons. The down quark is made up of 1 smu and 1 negative chargon. So for the neutron we have:

1 up quark=2 positive chargons (2x +1/3) and 1 smu
2 down quarks=2 negative chargons (2 x -1/3_ and 2 smu's for a total of 3 smu's

This gives us a net charge of 0 and a net mass (at rest) of 3.



The proton is made up of 2 up quarks and 1 down quark, which gives us:

2 up quarks=4 positive chargons (4x +1/3) (2 smu's each with 2 chargons)
1 down quark=1 negative chargon (1x -1/3) (1 smu with 1 negative chargon) for a total of 3 smu's

This gives us a net charge of +1 and a net mass (at rest) of 3.



Thanks again for your input.
Equilibrium

Thanks Mr.Lear for giving this small lecture.
I've read through it and i found it simple to understand.

Electron =  (3 x -1/3) = -1charge  

Neutron =  1 up quark((2x +1/3) +1smu) + ((2 x -1/3) + 2smu) = 3smuNeutralcharge

Proton = 2 up quarks ((4x +1/3 + 2smu) + 1 down quark((1x -1/3+1smu) = 3smu+1charge

I once had a class, my teacher got kinda angry with us lazy people and we were ordered to get our hands ASAP on any Quantumbook avaiable at the next bookstore, and learn this Basics, befor we come back from the lunchbreak so we can pass a small test, otherwise we were not allowed to continue! Lol. I got this book "Q for Quantum", i loved it, but somehow it disappeared.

nomen est omen Smile

EQ
johnlear

Equilibrium wrote:
Thanks Mr.Lear for giving this small lecture.
I've read through it and i found it simple to understand.

Electron =  (3 x -1/3) = -1charge  

Neutron =  1 up quark((2x +1/3) +1smu) + ((2 x -1/3) + 2smu) = 3smuNeutralcharge

Proton = 2 up quarks ((4x +1/3 + 2smu) + 1 down quark((1x -1/3+1smu) = 3smu+1charge

I once had a class, my teacher got kinda angry with us lazy people and we were ordered to get our hands ASAP on any Quantumbook avaiable at the next bookstore, and learn this Basics, befor we come back from the lunchbreak so we can pass a small test, otherwise we were not allowed to continue! Lol. I got this book "Q for Quantum", i loved it, but somehow it disappeared.

nomen est omen Smile

EQ



If you are interested in learning more may I recommend "Gravitational Force of the Sun" by scientist/mathematician Pari Spolter who proceeds to scientifically rip Newtons Universal Law of Gravitation and Einsteins theories both General and Special to teenie tiny shreds.
Equilibrium

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If you are interested in learning more may I recommend "Gravitational Force of the Sun" by scientist/mathematician Pari Spolter who proceeds to scientifically rip Newtons Universal Law of Gravitation and Einsteins theories both General and Special to teenie tiny shreds.


Smile sounds promising..ripping apart....shredding old dusty dogmas..i gona like it, thanks.

EQ
chaiyah

John, I return here every single day, and nobody replies to anything I post.

Are you just trying to run me off?  Is there something threatening about what I contribute?  I post corroborating info and comments like everybody else.

What's the deal here?


Chai
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
John, I return here every single day, and nobody replies to anything I post.

Are you just trying to run me off?  Is there something threatening about what I contribute?  I post corroborating info and comments like everybody else.

What's the deal here?


Chai


Sorry Chai,

you are not being ignored. Sometimes I don't get here as often as I want to.

My email is johnlear@cox.net if you have something urgent or you just have a question.
chaiyah

SCARLET IS OUR COLOR

By Jim R. Schwiesow

May 12, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

Time is fleeting and every second, minute, hour and day hurtles this nation closer to a time of retribution, a time so horrific that the mind cannot comprehend the magnitude of the fiery fury that will descend upon this nation and the people in it. The Eternal is moving against this country with purpose and terrible resolve, like small fingers of flame the preliminary pestilences signal a rapidly advancing holocaust.

The worst of heathen have come to possess the offices of our government, the halls of our institutions and the minds of our people. The land is in the terminal stages of a great spiritual disease. We are an adulterous people and a scarlet A has been emblazoned upon our land.

With regularity one hears it parroted that God’s blessings are upon this nation, those who give lip service only to the God of all creation continually wring their hands in despair over the removal of God from our coins, prayer from our schools and the Ten Commandments from our public institutions. One can only wonder where these same people were when sexual perversity and the teaching of social filthiness invaded our schools.

Where were they when derelict and avaricious politicians and government agents incrementally and systematically dismantled the Constitution and destroyed the individual liberties of the people? Under what rock were they hiding when the killing of live babies was sanctioned and a host of soul killing perversions were institutionalized?

Why would a supposed God-fearing people allow such to come to pass? The truth is that the more than one-half of the people of this country who call themselves Christian, a great majority of which are ashamed to utter the name of Jesus Christ in public, have done more spiritual damage than the totality of the non-religious, the atheists and the agnostics who reside in the country.

God’s blessings were withdrawn from this nation years ago, if that were not the case why is it that our vaunted power came to naught in wars with such small peanuts on the international scene as North Korea and North Viet Nam, two tiny two bit nations with little in the way of sophisticated weaponry at the time of their conflict with the United States. Some will bristle and bridle at this and many will alibi the defeats with any number of excuses none of which will explain away the fact that they won and we lost.

That God has broken our pride in our power is not the worst of it, we are seeing increasingly the punishments for our national sins and our refusal to keep faith with the Eternal God our creator and our master. Perversions lie upon this land like a filthy blanket. The land stinks of the rottenness of the lusts that prevail. We now find ways to make iniquitous pursuits seem righteous.

With the passing of statutes and a stroke of a pen, Walla! We have made despicable sins acceptable or at least we think that we have. We may fool the fools that pander after the lusts of the flesh that Satan has put into their hearts, but we have not fooled the all-knowing omnipotent God. Those who think that they have are in for a very rude awakening indeed.

We have delivered our children into an ignorance of their origin by prostelyzing for Satan and promoting his religion of evolution. Some like to call it evolutionary science, but I do not because it is not a science, it is an ignorant supposition or theory and those who embrace it denigrate the Holy God and call Him a liar. Many, who call themselves Christian, are ignobly timid and faint-hearted in the face of the blustering of those who believe that they have an absolute right to force their nescient theories upon an entire nation of people.

So these pusillanimous weak-kneed Christians genuflect to Satan’s agents in an attempt to placate them by urging an alternative evolution theory the substance of which is that God used evolution to create mankind. Its fine if they want to believe that, but if they do they ought not to call themselves Christians. God’s word specifically states that the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. There is no equivocation here and there is certainly no compromise with the devil and his demons who know quite well that man is not a product of a successive morphing of primitive species.

The dam has been breached in regard to the rapid delivery of the nation unto ever escalating catastrophes, manmade and natural, a trickle of such has turned into a deluge.

The dollar has all but collapsed; the economy is on its deathbed and kept barely alive by snake oil remedies that only prolong its inevitable demise. Corporations and industry moguls have discerned the depth of the sickness that they have contributed to and like rats off a sinking ship they are abandoning the country of the birth of their enterprises and moving their wealth and their assets to foreign lands.

Crime flourishes; serial killers and others of criminally debased minds stalk the land. The cities are immoral cesspits and simmering racial tensions fed by illegal immigration and shattered family units portend rapidly approaching riots of an astronomical and deadly potential.

It used to be that natural calamities were relatively rare occurrences, we now see deadly and super destructive natural phenomena strike almost daily somewhere in the United States and the areas of destruction are more widely spread. Devastating widespread flooding, thousands of violent tornadoes, hurricanes of magnum strength and completely unseasonable weather patterns are rapidly becoming the norm rather than the exception. The 10 most deadly natural disasters ever in the United States have all happened within the past 10 years.

The secularists who make up the majority of the scientific community and the national media would have us believe that all this havoc is caused by men and the changes they have wrought in regard to atmospheric conditions. They cannot be expected to know the real source of these anomalies since they have no spiritual base whatever, even if they would open a Bible they would be completely mystified by the contents. They prattle on thinking that they are wise. They do not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for it is foolishness to them; and they cannot understand these things because they are spiritually discerned.

Those who are enlightened and who do dissent in regard to the global warming myth are bullied and threatened into silence, just as those who question evolution are stifled by threats of loss of tenure, censure and loss of jobs. The agents of deception who serve the dark spirits cannot allow the light of truth to be shined upon the lies that they spin, and since they have not the truth to rely on they resort to smearing those who will not assent to their prevarications. A smirk, a sneer, a curled lip of disdain and churlish commentary are the tools of their trade and a gullible public is their ally in the transforming of their outright lies into fictitious truths.

The unrighteousness of our people, the moral degradation upon the nation, the rebellion against Almighty God and the rejection of His rule have brought us to the cusp of absolute destruction. Repent is not in our vocabulary and humility does not inhabit our soul, foolishness is forever on our lips and pride and arrogance mark our character.

The ignorance of our leaders and the delusion upon the people has made way for the institution of the elements of our own destruction. Our cities are teeming with forty million illegal foreign nationals with no allegiance to, or regard for, our safety or our domestic tranquility. They see the American people as intruders and interlopers on lands that they covet as their own.

We allow unfettered access to many thousands of Islamic militants each year and have allowed them to establish hundreds of Mosques throughout the country, which serve as sovereign citadels for subversion and truculence. In deference to political correctness we have undermined our social underpinnings and delivered up our schools and other institutions to moral bankruptcy. Only a nation that has been cut-off by Almighty God could have been handed over to such great vulnerability.

We have foolishly expended our resources and frittered away our assets. Auguries of a coming food shortage are upon us. We are diverting our crops to the making of fuel and food reserves are at a thirty-year low. Food inflation has become more serious than the rising cost of fuel. Given the unnatural weather patterns that are upon us it is inevitable that we will in the very near future experience massive crop failures through drought and other weather related developments. Famine will bring us to riots of unthinkable dimensions. The cities will erupt with the fires of such and the toll in death and destruction will be fearsome. But, the end is not yet.

The cataclysmic events described heretofore will weaken the nation and render us completely vulnerable to attacks by belligerent nations. At the present time the fuse has been lit in the middle east that will ignite most definitely a third world war. But, it will not be the Islamic nations that will put an end to us. It will be the nations, our former enemies of Europe, who have risen like a Phoenix from the ashes of their defeat and been reborn in their nazi fascist image that will make an end of us.

Many have written to me and bewailed what they see as a failure by me and other columnists with NewsWithViews.com to provide solutions to the problems that we describe. They concede that we have accurately identified the degradation that it upon our nation, but they want someone to provide the answers that will deliver the nation from a seemingly imminent demise. The truth is that there are no secular solutions that will deliver this nation. No resolution other than a nationwide confession of sin and repentance thereof will save this nation.

In one of my articles I quoted the following scripture and noted that some took umbrage over my application of this scripture to the United States. Protestations to prophetic scripture will not prevent the fulfillment thereof.

“How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. Revelation 18:7-8”


... Hell is coming to meet us ... Chaiyah
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:



... Hell is coming to meet us ... Chaiyah



Thanks for the post Chaiyah.

My opinion is that there is no god, Jesus Christ never existed and there is no Satan.

I think Mark is the one who made up the Jesus Christ story. Actually the virgin birth and son of god are both fantasies of all major and most minor religions.

Yes, there is a higher order but not a "God" in charge. God is a concept for people to believe in until they figure out the truth. They can ask god for favors or help. They can blame him when things go wrong.

Yes, many people have made mistakes according to generally accepted standards but there is no such thing as hell and hell is not coming to meet us. And there will be no wrath of a supposed god descending on us.

All of us are responsible for ourselves only, to try and live our lives without envy, hate or greed.

From your post I see an abundance of all three.

We should also tell each one of our family members how much we love them every single day.

Let me recommend instead of complaining about everyone elses faults that you concentrate on your own and try and rid yourself of envy, hate and greed.

Hell is not coming and the only apparent fire and brimstone seems to be issuing forth from yourself. Up in your self constructed pulpit.

Come on down with the rest of us. Enjoy the rest of your life.
chaiyah

Dear John,  Thank you for your reply.

You're an angel; you refuse to see what you do not countenance.

I can understand this; but I also call the alarm to those who care ENOUGH to want to change themselves in order to "make a difference."

I'm not better than anybody; I simply grieve over what I see happening before my eyes, to the planet, to innocent families and people.  And we're about the same age, you and me.

I grieve over the fact we are not allowed to have relationships with ETs.  Is that inappropriate, in your mind?  I wish I could come to know a Grey or an Andromedan or an Arcturian.  But the Feds won't let me; it's illegal and punishable to contact ETs.

Taking your moon photos off ATS and running them through my photoshop, I see houses and streets and public buildings and towers.  Am I wrong to wish I could get closer?  I showed you cats and a snake on Mars.  Wouldn't I just love to be able to write letters to the people who live there and find out what it's like there?

I sense an accusation on your part that I am being self-righteous. Maybe not.  Maybe I just feel cheated that I never got to go, never got to know the real deal.

: )  Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
Dear John,  Thank you for your reply.

You're an angel; you refuse to see what you do not countenance.

I can understand this; but I also call the alarm to those who care ENOUGH to want to change themselves in order to "make a difference."


Thats not your job. Your job is to live your life without envy, hate or greed.

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I'm not better than anybody; I simply grieve over what I see happening before my eyes, to the planet, to innocent families and people.  And we're about the same age, you and me.


Everything happens for a reason. Everything. You don't have to grieve because  theres nothing you can do about it. Its not your problem.

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I grieve over the fact we are not allowed to have relationships with ETs.  Is that inappropriate, in your mind?


You personally have contact with ET's 24/7. What you mean is they are not letting you remember because you are not ready for this information.

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 I wish I could come to know a Grey or an Andromedan or an Arcturian.  But the Feds won't let me; it's illegal and punishable to contact ETs.


The Feds have absolutely nothing to do with it and cannot stop it or start it or intervene.

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Taking your moon photos off ATS and running them through my photoshop, I see houses and streets and public buildings and towers.  Am I wrong to wish I could get closer?


You can wish all you want.

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 I showed you cats and a snake on Mars.


Most of the images of cats and snakes and monkeys and snails are put there by the government in their infinite ciontempt for the public.

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 Wouldn't I just love to be able to write letters to the people who live there and find out what it's like there?


You'd be closer to your wish if you lived your life without envy, hate or greed.

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I sense an accusation on your part that I am being self-righteous.


You sound like a fire and brimstone preacher.

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Maybe not.  Maybe I just feel cheated that I never got to go, never got to know the real deal.


I am telling the real deal and you are not listening. You keep telling me what YOU want and what YOU think.
chaiyah

Okay, I hear you.  I don't have to agree with you but I certainly respect your point-of-view which I note is quite "angelic."  And that's cool.  

You characterize me as a fire and brimstone preacher, wow.  I guess I need to learn how to speak more softly.  I'll keep trying, I promise, to frame my views in a less caustic, directive manner.

But you'll never get me to buy into passivity.  Hell will freeze over, first.

I sure hope this little forum takes off.  I really like what's already here.

Smile   Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:



But you'll never get me to buy into passivity.  Hell will freeze over, first.


Some consider passivity=enlightenment. Most don't. That's why we're in Iraq.

We'll kill or maim anybody and everybody including every last man, woman and child who doesn't want our kind of Democracy.

And we WILL bring Democracy to the Middle East if we have to kill every last man, woman and child to do it.

P.S. There is no hell so it can't freeze over.

As Harry S. Truman said, "I just tell them the truth and they think it's hell."
chaiyah

Have you seen Bob Dean's interview at Project Camelot?

http://www.projectcamelot.org/bob_dean.html

especially the second hour.

What's hard for me is, I hear the "traffic"  subjectively. I hear the Sylphs, the Rods, the Alpha Draconis, the Orion Group.

It/they all float by and I just try to keep it all "afloat," because I don't have the experience to make any judgments except THAT THE TRUTH MUST BE KNOWN.  That's the only judgment that makes any sense to me:  The Truth must be known.

We're in a world that practically nobody actually understands, a zoo.  Our schools teach foolishness instead of science, instead of philosophy, instead of medicine, instead of public policy.  They teach Lying One-A.

I can't even talk to my own children.  I come here because maybe you can talk about some of these things, because my family are bought in to the mainstream media, and they're not having any of it.

We don't have a support group, John, for people like you and me who dig and dig and dig and dig stuff up.  So, where do we go?  What do we say to people?  Do you think I can talk to my neighbors?  

So, your replying to me at all is a miracle, and wonderful.  Thanks so much.  I never intended to piss you off, honest.  

Emily
chaiyah

Quote:
Quote:  I showed you cats and a snake on Mars.


Most of the images of cats and snakes and monkeys and snails are put there by the government in their infinite ciontempt for the public.


John, there is NO WAY these images could have been added into the 46 megabyte Rover landscape in its original form.

They were already there, simply overlooked.

Methinks you give NASA too much credit for perfidy.  I see them merely, blind at bats.  Please look again.  

: )  Emily
dougr

John,

I'm wondering if you can share your impressions of the images I posted here:
http://johnlearsmoon.myfastforum.org/ftopic157-0-asc-0.php

...and here:
http://amkon.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=25177#p25177

If they show what it looks like they show, would they be helpful in your (and others') efforts to bring out the truth and move this planet toward a wider, truer and egalitarian freedom?
johnlear

dougr wrote:
John,

I'm wondering if you can share your impressions of the images I posted here:
http://johnlearsmoon.myfastforum.org/ftopic157-0-asc-0.php

...and here:
http://amkon.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=25177#p25177

If they show what it looks like they show, would they be helpful in your (and others') efforts to bring out the truth and move this planet toward a wider, truer and egalitarian freedom?


Thanks dougr,

I reserve comment on anything that comes through Arizona State University. Each photo has been gone over with a fine tooth comb and truth brushed to NASA's complete satisfaction.

I prefer images that have been printed prior to 1970 even though the resolution is far below what is presented on the internet.

Anything from the Japanese or Chinese recent moon probes are recycled NASA photos or photos of that giant plaster of paris moon used to fake the Apollo moon mission landings.

The so-called HD images were a joke.

You can generally assume that if the photo is on the web that it has been truth brushed.
dougr

John,

Is it possible that someone along the chain of processing and release purposely allowed some imagery to get through that didn't get cosmetic treatment?
The images I found from the ASU site appear to show artificial structures.
Rather than an answer concerning your thoughts about ASU I was wondering what you could say about the specific images.
Thanks for taking the time to communicate with me...an average guy with curiosity.
johnlear

dougr wrote:
John,

Is it possible that someone along the chain of processing and release purposely allowed some imagery to get through that didn't get cosmetic treatment?
The images I found from the ASU site appear to show artificial structures.
Rather than an answer concerning your thoughts about ASU I was wondering what you could say about the specific images.
Thanks for taking the time to communicate with me...an average guy with curiosity.


I am not saying its impossible but all digital imaging now goes through an automatic processing to eliminate any possible images of structures or artifacts.

NRL in their infinite arrogance also designed a program to put pictures of animals and insects, like snails, spiders, monkeys,  into craters.

You may have some evidence that there is someting odd in that crater. But it would be my opinion that the artifacts in the image is suspect.
Vril1

moon image-restructuring

Hello John. Smile
I will give you totally right about your opinion regarding moon-image-restructuring! Personally think it would be very exiting to have a topic: Evidencing the changing of the Ranger,Lunar,Apollo,Clemmentine-pictures And in a kind of historic way present the reasons for
Analog Handpainted,retouched images  then getting digitallisized and computorized, high-passed, colorized,compressed etc. Even the JAXA/Selene/Kaguya are using Clemmentine images! – Maybe they(NASA/JPL) are “cornering” themselves! Smile
Maybe they can´t go to the moon or they are not allowed to take visuable pictures up-there?  Wink Sounds crazy, but who knows? In missing the truth we are opening up for lots of speculation and waste of time (thats why NASA/JPL are wrong in whatever they are doing it for) Mankind could go further without wasting more and more valuable time.
The reason I think the job you are doing with a site like this is important, because if nobody would critisize and guard the truth, we would have a very poor world.
SpaceCommand

http://eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/...orage_01/0000019b/80/36/1b/bf.pdf

Get the document and save it before it's gone. But do not worry it can be obtained in many University libraries.

See page 160 and 161 pdf (148 and 149) for a general idea of SDI, Perestroika, making Nuclear Weapons "impotent and obsolete," and how to end the cold war with hundreds of applause one liners. Maybe this is too deep.

Just picture yourself on vacation in Hawaii, calling the Executive Office commentary line March 21, 1983 at 9AM EST, citing the book name The Study of the Future: An Agenda for Research, as well as page 149 neglecting to read the Soviet joke on page 148. Tell them "it seems this is what we are up against." Wait for your next issue of Time Magazine.

Kick back and watch Andropov say SDI is "insane," because he was listening to his "intelligence experts," when it looks too much like it was cited by a nobody even a less than nobody with rich relatives.

Watch your already inflated chess player ego go into a secretive stratosphere for years. Etc. etc. But there is a far deeper story to all of this before and after.

Note the strong conclusion of the article:

"Neither Russia nor America can spawn the future. The image of the future, at its best, has always been universal in character, a vision to serve and foster the growth of all mankind.....A vision of the future which falls short of this universality will in the end leave the earth a smoking ruin."
chaiyah

I call this, "the slippery academic slope all the way to insanity."  Trying to outrun all human trends, academics have hit the wall, and death is the only logical outcome that comes to them now.  Genocide.

Human life is not lived by generalizations; it is lived by causes and effects close to the organism.

No wonder our leaders have gone over the deep end, if they believed this stuff. To say that the present leadership is merely short-sighted is to ignore the PRIMITIVE (karmic) characteristics they display:

1. Tribalism:  inclusive and exclusive "knowledge" endowed by "technospeak" and jargon-speak of generalizations not applicable to any single human life;

2. Culling of Dissent:  by death, bankruptcy and scapegoating.

3. Sequestry of true knowledge and the propagation of myths--as if Insiders were the only humans worthy of knowing what is true.

4. Cannibalism:  in the case of the Skull & Bonesmen and Satanists, literally. In the case of Hierarchical Corporatism, figuratively.  Nobody who isn't a Federalist, Occultist or Illuminist GETS HIRED for anything but service jobs.

I'm amazed so few educated people can recognize and identify Evil when it's right before their eyes.  Tribalism is Evil because it preys on everyone not in the IN GROUP.

That's NOT "governance by CONSENT."  Does anybody remember that?

There is no problem can be solved by a community that doesn't know what is true and real, to deal with.


Emily
SpaceCommand

Yes local government with checks and balances operating through transparency is far preferable to a secretive centralized kleptocracy. At least some jargon fitting into a path to self evident truths is preferable to a cacophony of lies that even our leaders cannot track successfully. Right now can you prefer some academic exercise to individual "gut instincts?"

You are so right about many issues, however history is in some sense biography. Solutions can proceed with an atmosphere of concerted thought using a division of labor and that includes some measure of jargon. In the absence of that consider how Voltaire made an important point "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

That is a dilemma people face today while confronting evil staring us into the face from elitists suffering from anomie, or the lack of moral principles. This is alienating too many of us whose inner wishes for equitable life of general conscience should dominate. Do we too often judge those people by our own standards, and is that a mistake when we would want to uncover the truth of the matter? It is surely appears to be the case when you ask the right questions.

Extending war into outer space, would expand the anomie of elitists though a compound interest formula for wealth. If you were an advanced space alien, presumably in an benign social structure, would you want that?

Consider that anomie from the perspective of an ostensible usurpation of long time social compacts historically creating that wealth. Mindless paper profits though confiscation proceeds while a sound economic paradigm increasingly becomes lost. The remedy is always here and now,  preferably available and operating yesterday.

Keep on shining the light and watch the rats scurry.
chaiyah

I've proven that NASA's photos are fraud, so now I'm talking to qui tam attorneys.

This has gotta stop.


Emily
johnlear

dougr wrote:
John,

Is it possible that someone along the chain of processing and release purposely allowed some imagery to get through that didn't get cosmetic treatment?
The images I found from the ASU site appear to show artificial structures.
Rather than an answer concerning your thoughts about ASU I was wondering what you could say about the specific images.
Thanks for taking the time to communicate with me...an average guy with curiosity.


That's possible but in my opinion unlikely.

The Nasty NAZA Nazis want space for themselves and don't want us to know anything about it.  They might show something but it will not be enough to convince vey many people about what is going on.

Anything coming out of ASU has been throughly sanitized. If you think you see anything then it has been put there to mislead you as to the true facts of the planets.

And the true facts is that all planetrs in our solar system including most of the moons are inhabited by people very similar to us with one exception.

We are the only ones who wake up in the morning looking for non-existant Moslem terrorists to kill. Smile
oba

Quote:
 Conceived, designed, constructed, launched and deployed in total secrecy these enormous platforms have extremely high tech weapons which have not killed any 'grays' but on September 11, 2001 killed over 3000 Americans, the very people they are allegedly trying to protect. Not to mention these Direct Energy Weapons were probably used in the Gulf War, Oklahoma City (Murrah building), Chernobyl, Waco, Minneapolis, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably in some form aided and abetted Katrina and the tidal wave in Southeast Asia.  


heavy.
chaiyah

Whoever, these days, is in control of space-based and weapons of mass destruction is -- even now as we speak -- insane.

Coddled in secret by the industrial complex, I believe their minds have been taken over by cannibalistic ETs because Death is all they know, all they do.

Filth rules when Heaven gets overrun.


Chai
MOTOVTRE

hi!
when im thinking about weaponry, then it comes to mind the guy (cant remember who) that said that the computer technology/power  we have for public to day was standar black ops. equipment in the 50-60s, and that bring up the question about the development in weapons that we, the ord. guy, cant imagine.
that goes of course for all other stuff.

this guy was also talking about a server the size of a standar laptop that do the job of large supercomputer that simens computer had made a couple of years ago

cant validate this info. but claimed he had been involve in secret service and other secret  org.
chaiyah

Can you say," space-based weapons"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u43I4YRMmDM

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1104.htm

Doing China might NOT have been a very good idea, not EVEN (arg!) according to Official "Club of Rome" doctrine of "population reduction."

I think the Chinese MIND THIS.

Who's running this nation anyway, crazy people?


Chai
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
Can you say," space-based weapons"?


Who's running this nation anyway, crazy people?


Chai



Military/Industrial Complex/Nasty NAZA Nazi's who's agenda doesn't include sharing anything with 'us'.

Not to worry, everything will eventually work out. Smile
chaiyah

"Not to worry. Everything will eventually work out."

That's nice.

Who says?  Some multi-dimensional Being somewhere?

Is God in charge of this mess?

God, I hope so!


Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
"Not to worry. Everything will eventually work out."

That's nice.

Who says?  Some multi-dimensional Being somewhere?

Is God in charge of this mess?

God, I hope so!


Emily



Sorry, in my opinion there is no god as most perceive. But, there is a force. No, you can't pray to it and ask favors. And no you can't blame it or him or her for all the troubles on earth. And no you can't expect justice.

All you can do, and all you are supposed to do in to live your life without envy, hate or greed with as much integrity as you can muster.

You can also tell each member of your family how much you love them each and every day.

It all starts with you. Smile
chaiyah

I've heard this before.

I don't believe wishing for Goodness is sufficient, nor is just taking care of one's family.

There's a whole world out there, and then a whole solar system and a whole Galaxy.

We can't just attend to our own devices, not to my way of thinking.  Evil exists and if we don't confront it, it will consume us too.


Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
I've heard this before.

I don't believe wishing for Goodness is sufficient, nor is just taking care of one's family.

There's a whole world out there, and then a whole solar system and a whole Galaxy.

We can't just attend to our own devices, not to my way of thinking.  Evil exists and if we don't confront it, it will consume us too.


Emily



Then you are/become just like them.
chaiyah

No, John, the end doesn't justify the means.  However--

Confronting evil doesn't mean stooping to its methods.

In college, I studied Conflict Analysis and Negotiating; and what became apparent from studying Jesus and Gandhi and the Quakers and the B'a'hai's is that "stooping to their methods" doesn't work out at all.

And thank you so much for the opportunity to talk about this.

As you know I have been studying the Mars photos from NASA for some time; and what has become apparent is that the human beings there have a very different social system and value culture than we do.

They HIDE everything of value.  They camoflage their facilities.  One sees people standing out in the open; but there are few roads (just paths), no cars, no identifying structures.

Finally, one finds dead, mummified remains sitting out in the open.

[img]http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/pia00386mummy.jpg  [/img]

Everyone wears broad-brimmed hats and women wear skirts down to their ankles.  

http://www.abidemiracles.com/imag...samars/opp974paths&people.jpg

People there have learned how to deal with evil, by hiding from it.  We Terrans have not yet learned that lesson.

Okay, where you are you hide from evil. Where I am, I do not have that option, so I confront evil every day.  When I take my walks, I have two large dogs with me, in San Jose, State of Mexico, near San Francisco.  My dogs are very friendly and people come pet them; but evil leaves me alone.

The only way to disband HAARP is to reveal the truth of its effects to the populace at large, until everybody gets literally and figuratively, sick of it.

So, realizing that there are strategies for TURNING ASIDE evil and EXPOSING EVIL that are necessary for OVERTURNING EVIL, any citizen wanting to live in a civil society has to make some choices : how much to reveal, how much to conceal, and when to move out.

That's not joining them, not at all, John.

: )  Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
No, John, the end doesn't justify the means.  However--

Confronting evil doesn't mean stooping to its methods.

In college, I studied Conflict Analysis and Negotiating; and what became apparent from studying Jesus and Gandhi and the Quakers and the B'a'hai's is that "stooping to their methods" doesn't work out at all.

And thank you so much for the opportunity to talk about this.

As you know I have been studying the Mars photos from NASA for some time; and what has become apparent is that the human beings there have a very different social system and value culture than we do.

They HIDE everything of value.  They camoflage their facilities.  One sees people standing out in the open; but there are few roads (just paths), no cars, no identifying structures.

Finally, one finds dead, mummified remains sitting out in the open.

[img]http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/pia00386mummy.jpg  [/img]

Everyone wears broad-brimmed hats and women wear skirts down to their ankles.  

http://www.abidemiracles.com/imag...samars/opp974paths&people.jpg

People there have learned how to deal with evil, by hiding from it.  We Terrans have not yet learned that lesson.

Okay, where you are you hide from evil. Where I am, I do not have that option, so I confront evil every day.  When I take my walks, I have two large dogs with me, in San Jose, State of Mexico, near San Francisco.  My dogs are very friendly and people come pet them; but evil leaves me alone.

The only way to disband HAARP is to reveal the truth of its effects to the populace at large, until everybody gets literally and figuratively, sick of it.

So, realizing that there are strategies for TURNING ASIDE evil and EXPOSING EVIL that are necessary for OVERTURNING EVIL, any citizen wanting to live in a civil society has to make some choices : how much to reveal, how much to conceal, and when to move out.

That's not joining them, not at all, John.

: )  Emily



Apparently you believe you are looking at actual photos of Mars.

Bless you, my dear.
chaiyah

Yep.

I have no REASON to doubt that.  Do you want to give me some?

After all, the ENTIRE NASA MARS program hinges on their claim that all these Rover, Opportunity and close-by photos ARE from Mars.

What you are saying implies that NASA are bigger liars than even I took them for.

Please disabuse me of the notion, if the huge expanses of landtracts, from 15mB to 45mB --EACH-- in size, are not from Mars.

Where are these from, pray tell?

I'm all ears--er--eyes!


Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
Yep.

I have no REASON to doubt that.  Do you want to give me some?

After all, the ENTIRE NASA MARS program hinges on their claim that all these Rover, Opportunity and close-by photos ARE from Mars.

What you are saying implies that NASA are bigger liars than even I took them for.

Please disabuse me of the notion, if the huge expanses of landtracts, from 15mB to 45mB --EACH-- in size, are not from Mars.

Where are these from, pray tell?

I'm all ears--er--eyes!


Emily



Antarctica. But that is just  guess. Most people think Antarctica is covered with ice.
chaiyah

johnlear wrote:
Antarctica. But that is just  guess. Most people think Antarctica is covered with ice.


You can't even Google it.  I've tried.

It's true:  they're not going to allow us to see the interior--

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/obop/spo/station.htm

let alone, the "entrance."  That makes sense.

But, why haven't we photographed Mars at all, then?

I'm amazed.  You mean, NASA is NOTHING BUT a fraud?

Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
johnlear wrote:
Antarctica. But that is just  guess. Most people think Antarctica is covered with ice.


You can't even Google it.  I've tried.

It's true:  they're not going to allow us to see the interior--

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/obop/spo/station.htm

let alone, the "entrance."  That makes sense.

But, why haven't we photographed Mars at all, then?

I'm amazed.  You mean, NASA is NOTHING BUT a fraud?

Emily



If you are going to google Antarctica you need to spell it correctly.

After you have googled Antarctica google Antarctica Pegasus for a look at our operations down there.
chaiyah

I do know how to spell Antarctica.

But that's okay, I'll go look.

http://www.sethwhite.org/pegasus.htm

I'm looking for dry mountainous slopes, here.  ???

I need some "proof," John.   Your statements are interesting.

But they're not complete.  Okay?

: )  Em
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:

I need some "proof," John.   Your statements are interesting.

But they're not complete.  Okay?

: )  Em



With all due respect chaiyah, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN' MIND?

Proof? Proof?  Sure step right up here chaiyah, meet Mr. Joe Blow who works for NASA, he's here to give you a briefing on how they are defrauding the public. Listen carefully now, y'heah?

Proof my a**. Smile
chaiyah

Okay.

No point in arguing.

I observe:  the PROOF of NASA's lies is embedded in the deliberately off-color photos which NASA sells to the public as "true" representations.

They keep adding color filters until a person can no longer see details.
That is one form of fraud, and I have sent examples of this fraud to the Office of the Inspector General of NASA, requesting an explanation.

We'll see what turns up; however, I expect to have to demand FOIA any further action on their part to either correct or rationalize their fraud photos.

I acknowledge your contention, that their photos aren't even of Mars, is one that cannot be proven with the data I have.


: )  Em
Lubomir

Mr. Lear,

haven't you thought that parallel to the antigravity development during the decades, other research has been performed with the same secrecy? I mean - what if these 'grays' are biological creatures made again by the same people and in the same bases where the flying saucers are build Smile  By using the DNA of abducted people, and if the medicine in secret levels is so advanced, this secret groups can alter the genes. That explains how the 'greys' have appeared.

P.S. The military group, of which you are speeking, sir, or the so called  Military-industrial complex can't function without money, and they are coming from the bankers Smile  The Banking Guilds are these blood suckers, who enjoy the wars. They are responsible for the "Bolshevik Revolution", the nazis, WW2, The "Cold War" and "War on terror". They make profits of the dead people in Iraq today, no matter if they are local iraqis or coalition soldiers. They decide who is the next president of USA tomorrow.

So... after war on terror, what next? Smile

P.S.2   The moslems are the new commies Laughing  
Like you said - if there are no enemies, they will be invented Very Happy
chaiyah

I beg to differ.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/0807126570.htm

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/800pxMarsPanoramaMEC.jpg

http://www.abidemiracles.com/imag...ars/1750px-MainApolloHillsMEC.jpg

Those are NASA's pictures, of soldiers in khaki camo fatigues identical to British or [former] American GIs (now in tan or gray).

This is MY picture, and my hypothesis about what is really going on.  There.



Emily
johnlear

Lubomir wrote:
Mr. Lear,

haven't you thought that parallel to the antigravity development during the decades, other research has been performed with the same secrecy? I mean - what if these 'grays' are biological creatures made again by the same people and in the same bases where the flying saucers are build Smile  By using the DNA of abducted people, and if the medicine in secret levels is so advanced, this secret groups can alter the genes. That explains how the 'greys' have appeared.


Unlikely, in my opinion.

Quote:
P.S. The military group, of which you are speeking, sir, or the so called  Military-industrial complex can't function without money, and they are coming from the bankers Smile


Money doesn't come from banks. Money comes from the sale and distribution of drugs.

Quote:
 The Banking Guilds are these blood suckers, who enjoy the wars.


I don't think they enjoy wars but they do profit from them and that is their business.

Quote:
They are responsible for the "Bolshevik Revolution", the nazis, WW2, The "Cold War" and "War on terror". They make profits of the dead people in Iraq today, no matter if they are local iraqis or coalition soldiers.


Again, banks don't profit on 'dead people'. They profit on weapons, supplies, construction and drugs.

Quote:
They decide who is the next president of USA tomorrow.


Yes, that would be an accurate statement.

Quote:
So... after war on terror, what next? Smile


Well if we were to believe Wernher von Braun the threats come in this order:

Communism
Terrorists
Asteroids
Alien invasion

Quote:
P.S.2   The moslems are the new commies Laughing  
Like you said - if there are no enemies, they will be invented Very Happy


Yes, I have seem some anti-Muslim propaganda that I consider shamefully disgraceful.

Fortunately for me, all I have to do is live my life without envy, hate or greed.
chaiyah

By what authority?

Can you just ignore these outcomes and have no part in the truth-telling, John?

I think somebody better inform the people, how we got where we are. That's my considered and professional opinion.

You do what you want, of course.


Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:
By what authority?

Can you just ignore these outcomes and have no part in the truth-telling, John?

I think somebody better inform the people, how we got where we are. That's my considered and professional opinion.

You do what you want, of course.


Emily


If you are looking for a response Emily you are going to have to try and be more detailed in your questions.

For instance, you ask "by what authority"? By what authority what? To what are you referring? You don't make that clear.

You ask if I can ignore 'these outcomes'? What outcomes are we talking about? And what is this about 'truth telling".

Please take a moment to compose both yourself and you questions.

Maybe even take a stress pill.

It will be greatly appreciated.
Lubomir

johnlear wrote:
Unlikely, in my opinion
But not impossible Wink
Anyway... there are biological experiments with clones.

johnlear wrote:
Money doesn't come from banks. Money comes from the sale and distribution of drugs.
So that's where all the money from the drugs have gone -> secret projects Smile

johnlear wrote:


I don't think they enjoy wars but they do profit from them and that is their business.
Agree, but the final result is a Bloodbath for both sides. And they, the bankers, are again clean Smile


johnlear wrote:
Well if we were to believe Wernher von Braun the threats come in this order:

Communism
Terrorists
Asteroids
Alien invasion
When we jump to asteroids threats?

P.S. Sir, you remeber what Tom Cruise has done Smile   He begun to build a Bunker Laughing
chaiyah

johnlear wrote:


If you are looking for a response Emily you are going to have to try and be more detailed in your questions.

For instance, you ask "by what authority"? By what authority what? To what are you referring? You don't make that clear.

You ask if I can ignore 'these outcomes'? What outcomes are we talking about? And what is this about 'truth telling".

Please take a moment to compose both yourself and you questions.

Maybe even take a stress pill.

It will be greatly appreciated.


These are simply rhetorical questions.

I wonder about the philosophy you have adopted that leads you to repeat over and over, one must "live my life without envy, hate or greed."

I just wonder about that.

Insofar as effects go, I track effects very carefully because that is the area of specialty to which I have been educated to the Masters degree: conflict analysis.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/0807126570.htm

I work at investigating what's going on; that's what I do.

When someone repeats something I've not heard as a philosophy a few times, I tend to ask, please elaborate.

I'm not trying to be rude and I'm not trying to bully you, John.

: )  Emily
johnlear

chaiyah wrote:


These are simply rhetorical questions.

I wonder about the philosophy you have adopted that leads you to repeat over and over, one must "live my life without envy, hate or greed."

I just wonder about that.


Thats the main mantra for the John Lear Church of Self Realization and Storm Door Company LLC.

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When someone repeats something I've not heard as a philosophy a few times, I tend to ask, please elaborate.


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I'm not trying to be rude and I'm not trying to bully you, John.



Boy, you sure coulda fooled me.Smile
chaiyah

Well, I guess I do tend to be kinda abrupt sometimes.

Sorry if I offended you.

I continue my studies of NASA "Mars" photos; and from what I see the reality of NASA's defacing their own photographs to conceal details is quite apparent.

That's my mantra these days.  And I don't know how many of these REPAIRED "Mars" photos you want put up in your Mars section.

Actually, that's my next question.  How many you want, John?  I have about a hundred and counting, done.

: )  Emily
Lubomir

Re: The Weaponization of Space; 1968-2008

johnlear wrote:

I have good information that as far back as 1988 we had a bomb that could have destroyed an area as large as half the size of the South American continent.
Antimatter?
I'm familiar with one destructive bomb - The 57 megaton Tsar bomb - tested in 1961.

And this one, of which you speak, was it tested somewhere else - like on Mars or the dark side of the Moon?

What's the point of building such powerful weapons Confused   Because when everything is destroyed > no sheeps > no shepherd Laughing  Confused
EBEntity

Hello,
I knothis thread is about weapons in space. A subjest on which I know nothing, but I feel compelled to comment on the use of the term "containers" by John in the first paragraph.
I too have been given this exact word! "Containers". When I was told "never hurt a container" I took it to mean humans but also felt it included animals. Maybe that's what lead me to a vegetarian lifestyle which I maintined for more than 26 years.
One other thing.
Dear Emily,
I can feel that you are very upset and understandably!
Try this simple exercise...It might help.
Put your self or any person you know in the "container" (body of someone superpowerful (NAZI NASA INDUSTRIALISTS)....Now would you act differently? Would the people you know act differently?
If you would not not allow "absolute power to corrupt absolutely" then you have reached a higher spiritual level. Look inside yourself to see if you are indeed "higher" than them. It's a little like "He who is without sin may cast the first stone".
The hardest feat anyone will face in life is moving to the "higher" spiritual level.
And you will have to face being different than most other people.
At least this is my (maybe naive, maybe programmed) opinion.
Best wishes and lots of love to you.
EBE
EBEntity

Hi Again,
Sorry. I did not mean to sound "HOLIER THAN THOU" on the last post.!

I did a little soul searching and tried to put myself in the same shoes as those "NASA NAZI PARANOID GENOCIDAL MANIACS" and came up with this.

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Have a good evening everyone.

EBE
EBEntity

Hi Again,
I was just reading through this thread again and noticed something. Earlier Ramjet was talking about electrons, atoms, charges and I saw this reference to homeopathy.

"Many more effects become easy to understand like where the "hidden" information would be stored in homeopatic substances."

I'm not educated in mathematics, so was not able to quite understand it, but this really stood out in my mind because I was given this same info telepathically. (You are all probably thinking I'm some kind of abductee nut.)
Well, that's OK. But I was given the info that we do not have to eat food to stay alive. That we can just absorb the vibrations by holding it or being near it and it will in turn transfer the same vibration inside us. Well, this sounds like the same type of environment that Sleeper was in while in the City on Uranus. People did not need to eat but could take in the food from their environment. I know this thread is about something else but just needed to put that in.
Oh and by the way. Homeopathy works!

Thank you for this forum. Great info here.
EBE

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