Archive for johnlearsmoon.myfastforum.org a forum for parties interested in john lears upcoming book the living moon and the conspiracies surrounding a populated solar system
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sleeper
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The primordial soup was cateredNo doubt everyone on this board believes that, or at the very least they believe that other planets got lucky as did earth, and miraculously sprouted life. The difficulty for those with rational minds comes when we try to understand how it is possible to traverse the vast distances of star systems with our understanding of physics. It does not compute.
The fact is there is no limits whatsoever on travel between star systems, our world is visited every day by extraterrestrials who apparently haven’t got the memo that what they do is impossible.
Unfortunately these extraterrestrials don’t want everyone to know about them, and there in lies the problem. Most of us understandably want more; we want to kick the tires before we buy these UFO stories.
Sorry, but I’m not here to sell anything, but I will answer some questions, the questions they give me answers to, or stuff I have experienced---to a limit.
I don’t think I will be inundated with questions here since this is a new site as I was at ats and I’m sure many who frequent this site are members of ats and have read many of my comments.
I’m not arrogant but unfortunately I come off as arrogant, it goes with the territory, anyone making the claims I make without proof is arrogant, a fool, insane, a loser looking for attention, or the real deal.
I have told my story at ats and been accused of all those things, that also goes with the territory. If I didn’t want to be laughed at I could returned to the tranquility of anonymity, where I spent most of my life until two years ago.
Personally I don’t like being laughed at but my ET buddies like torturing me and will not let me go quietly back to obscurity, at least not yet---lol
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JohnnyAnonymous
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I'm sure many members that may not be aware of your experiences (and others that need a refresher) might like you to just start from the beginning with your very first experience and inclinations of something being off-keltered.
This will bring everyone up to speed...
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sleeper
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Hi Johnny
I will not get into all the details because there is way too much stuff to write, I will blog it some day.
Anyway, I came to this planet in a ship, I don’t remember the size of the ship but it came to this planet in 1952. I was fully conscience of my surroundings my mind was that of an adult and on the way to earth we visited other planets in the solar system. We stopped above earth and I remember looking down at the planet. Then next thing I knew I was in the body of a baby. I learned later that the baby was two weeks old when I was inserted into the body. For the first hour or so I was fully aware that I was in a baby’s body and much of my memory of the ship and my previous life melted away---which was a good thing since I lost all ability to function. My memory of that night hibernated until I was about five years old and then remained in the background for the rest of my life. Many more memories were released as I got older but much of them didn’t make sense until I became an adult in my early twenties during my military years.
What I did while in the military remains off limits, I can’t divulge it because they said so, ET that is. The military would not be happy either. I only served three years in the army during the Vietnam War, it took some doing to get out of the army, they did not want to release me but I refused to continue and those ETs in charge of me agreed that I shouldn’t remain and intervened.
I can see that I’m going to get myself into trouble on this board as I did on ats because I’m not ready to tell my whole story and it will appear that I’m teasing with my short accounts and lack of details.
Until I decide to blog and I haven’t yet because it takes lots of time to sit down and write my story, I will only answer a few questions. Please don’t hate me. 
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zorgon
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Greetings Sleeper and welcome...
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I will not get into all the details because there is way too much stuff to write, I will blog it some day. |
Well when you are ready to do that, let me know. I can create a page for you at Pegasus. I can also copy all the 107 pages of that other thread and keep them for reference after deleting all the hyenas 
I did that with both moon threads as well as Beth's and mine star gate threads after the threat to close the moon thread was made... and they did actually close it for a couple of days... which is why we are now here 
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What I did while in the military remains off limits, I can’t divulge it because they said so, ET that is. The military would not be happy either. |
I can imagine! Those military types just aren't the sharing type...[well with some notable exceptions) Are you allowed to tell us anything about mining operations on the moon? Its ummm a favorite subject of ours 
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I can see that I’m going to get myself into trouble on this board as I did on ats because I’m not ready to tell my whole story and it will appear that I’m teasing with my short accounts and lack of details. |
Not likely... not from the establishment anyway, and we are used to teasing... but we do have questions. And I won't say we will all believe everything you say all the time without backup, but we are good at listening... and reading between the lines
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Until I decide to blog and I haven’t yet because it takes lots of time to sit down and write my story, I will only answer a few questions. |
Well have a look around at Pegeasus. I think it would be a nice home for your story... [/quote]
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sleeper
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[quote="zorgon"]Greetings Sleeper and welcome...
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Well when you are ready to do that, let me know. I can create a page for you at Pegasus. I can also copy all the 107 pages of that other thread and keep them for reference after deleting all the hyenas
I did that with both moon threads as well as Beth's and mine star gate threads after the threat to close the moon thread was made... and they did actually close it for a couple of days... which is why we are now here |
Hi zorgon, thanks,
I might take you up on that, but would that confine my blog/page to this site?
| Quote: | | I can imagine! Those military types just aren't the sharing type...[well with some notable exceptions) Are you allowed to tell us anything about mining operations on the moon? Its ummm a favorite subject of ours |
Well you probably noticed that I didn’t contribute to that thread. It goes without saying that humans are up there now, but NASA will also put people up there---officially. Not sure how much cleaning up they will do but that is still a few decades off and NASA knows what parts of the garden are off limits for picking fruit.
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Not likely... not from the establishment anyway, and we are used to teasing... but we do have questions. And I won't say we will all believe everything you say all the time without backup, but we are good at listening... and reading between the lines |
If I’m not talking fantastic stuff, then don’t believe anything I say. ETs are virtually gods interfacing with man---that’s why many humans go into shock and melt in their presents.
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JohnnyAnonymous
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Sleeper,
Would you mind posting the address for your Blog site?
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sleeper
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| JohnnyAnonymous wrote: | Sleeper,
Would you mind posting the address for your Blog site? |
I don't have one yet, looking into it.
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johnlear
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Posted by Zorgon
| Quote: | | And I won't say we will all believe everything you say all the time without backup,...... |
OK Zorgon, I'll bite. What would you consider 'backup'?
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Matyas
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Are you still about, Sleeper?
Most of my memories about my previous life interaction with the space environment involved some sort of gruesome annihilation. One time I locked myself out of the spacecraft and wound up roasting under a red giant. Then I had to watch my body burn away after I left it. Very curious that is, how the flesh discolors and peels away exposing layers of muscle...
And I recall another incident, when we fried a field coil while breaking against a gas giant. I distinctly remember grasping the rail over the galley and looking into black death looming on the screen, and said "This is it! Now we will die..."
So I am no stranger to the heavenly origins of consciousness
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sleeper
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| Matyas wrote: | Are you still about, Sleeper?
Most of my memories about my previous life interaction with the space environment involved some sort of gruesome annihilation. One time I locked myself out of the spacecraft and wound up roasting under a red giant. Then I had to watch my body burn away after I left it. Very curious that is, how the flesh discolors and peels away exposing layers of muscle... |
Interesting, but it’s not possible to be locked out of a ship that is capable of traveling to a red giant star. Perhaps you were expelled over a game of poker, or flirting with the captain’s sweet thing?
| Quote: | And I recall another incident, when we fried a field coil while breaking against a gas giant. I distinctly remember grasping the rail over the galley and looking into black death looming on the screen, and said "This is it! Now we will die..."
So I am no stranger to the heavenly origins of consciousness |
Fried a field coil? In my experiences I have never been aware of component failures in ET ships, ever. Now there are many earth type planets where the people have left the playpen and ventured into space---but to undertake a trip to a gas giant would require ET class ships, and they don’t malfunction, nor do they lose crewmembers.
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Matyas
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| sleeper wrote: | | Interesting, but it’s not possible to be locked out of a ship that is capable of traveling to a red giant star. Perhaps you were expelled over a game of poker, or flirting with the captain’s sweet thing? |
Actually as I recall I was alone. The surface of the planet was just bare rock. I remember not being able to get back in, and when the red giant rose I felt extreme pain such as the type of pain one would feel as they are being burned alive. Nowadays I am very fastedious about keeping hide-a-keys everywhere...
| Quote: | | Fried a field coil? In my experiences I have never been aware of component failures in ET ships, ever. Now there are many earth type planets where the people have left the playpen and ventured into space---but to undertake a trip to a gas giant would require ET class ships, and they don’t malfunction, nor do they lose crewmembers. |
The gas giant appeared on the viewscreen as a gently curved mass of black. It appeared to grow rapidly filling the view as the curve continued to straighten. Just before I had that momentary flash of realization, the kind of total acceptance and surrender when you know it is the end, one of the crewmwmbers notified me of the malfunction. And of course that crewmember was human.
So I really don't know for sure if it was an ET class ship or not, and I am thinking not. And it is not clear to me how I got locked out of the other one, but that was a heavy price.
OTOH, I had pretty good luck on world. I recall a (successful) meeting with another intelligent lifeform regarding an attempted takeover of another planet's inhabitants. I had to use ichinen to communicate while we sat across from each other at a great table. The walls of the hall rose so high they were lost in a blue haze. Very spectacular.
So these experiences of mine are absolutely true in the sense truth is relative. I can in no way prove their truth, and likewise no one can prove them untrue. But if they are new to you, then that is why I am sharing them.
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NJ Mooch
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Hi Sleeper. I got a question for you since you were in Vietnam. My Father was in Vietnam and we haven't really spoke about this topic yet, but I want to next time I see him. I have learned a lot about different topics in the past year or two so I want to ask you something that may come in handy when I talk to him.
As I said my Father served in Vietnam. Afterwards he said he worked on computers. He also said he worked at the Pentagon during this time. This makes no sense to me since going from the First Cav in Vietnam to the Pentagon would mean you know someone. Were oders like that normally given out? I really don't know about the Army having computers back in the late 60s early 70s let alone having personnel work on them. I will ask him more when I see him but there are things that I remember while I was growing up that make no sense to me. He is also 100% retired from the federal gov't now since he suffers from PTSD that was finally documented in the past few years.
While this may have no connection to the answers I seek it makes me wonder about stuff he might have done or known about. Like I said, I will ask him some questions when I see him, but if you know of a question or two that I should ask that would be great. I can say that he is very much into science and world events, as well as politics. Model rockets were a big part of growing up and he still launches them. There is more to post about him but I want to give you an idea of who he is incase that can help you figure out something that I can ask him about. Myself and my brother are both pretty smart but we went in seperate but similiar directions in life. Both of us enjoy science and work for the US gov't. I haven't found the job I wanted yet but my brother has. We are much different then most of the kids we grew up with. I'm not saying that we're special, but we weren't raised the way most people were in this country. Freedom was the biggest part of growing up for us and I can't thank my parents enough for that.
I also read your story. I enjoyed it very much and it helps me understand how we as humans think and would react to certain situations. John Lear told me to read a book called Mind Trek. That book has opened my mind up to new ways of researching info. I haven't tried that stuff yet but I would like to one day.
I think I said enough for now. Any info you can share would be great. I wish you the best and i'll be talking to you.
Steve
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chaiyah
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I remember stuff too. A lot of us remember stuff, enough to tell that the "space debris" NASA talked about were actually ETs that are disincarnate at this frequency.
I could never understand why NASA thinks we're all so stupid.
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Em
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Down Syndrome Adonis
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I am extremely interested in the idea that we are "containers", our energy and "souls" being recycled or re-manufactured (among other things?).
I was wondering if anyone has an opinion or would like to comment on any possible link between what Strassman's theories and clinical trials with DMT found, findings from much past-life regression hypnosis seem to indicate and the concept that we are just conduits for some kind of energy. Regards and thank-you.
DSA
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chaiyah
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That's over my head; but good luck.
Emily
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crawgator406
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| sleeper wrote: | Hi Johnny
I will not get into all the details because there is way too much stuff to write, I will blog it some day.
Anyway, I came to this planet in a ship, I don’t remember the size of the ship but it came to this planet in 1952. I was fully conscience of my surroundings my mind was that of an adult and on the way to earth we visited other planets in the solar system. We stopped above earth and I remember looking down at the planet. Then next thing I knew I was in the body of a baby. I learned later that the baby was two weeks old when I was inserted into the body. For the first hour or so I was fully aware that I was in a baby’s body and much of my memory of the ship and my previous life melted away---which was a good thing since I lost all ability to function. My memory of that night hibernated until I was about five years old and then remained in the background for the rest of my life. Many more memories were released as I got older but much of them didn’t make sense until I became an adult in my early twenties during my military years.
What I did while in the military remains off limits, I can’t divulge it because they said so, ET that is. The military would not be happy either. I only served three years in the army during the Vietnam War, it took some doing to get out of the army, they did not want to release me but I refused to continue and those ETs in charge of me agreed that I shouldn’t remain and intervened.
I can see that I’m going to get myself into trouble on this board as I did on ats because I’m not ready to tell my whole story and it will appear that I’m teasing with my short accounts and lack of details.
Until I decide to blog and I haven’t yet because it takes lots of time to sit down and write my story, I will only answer a few questions. Please don’t hate me. |
Hey sleeper just remember this isn't ATS you just take your time on telling your story. just remember the best things come to those who wait.happy to see you here, there is some pretty cruel people out there on outher forums not meanching any name. peace, love, and genorasity.
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EBEntity
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Hi Everybody,
I've been all over the internet and have finally tracked down Sleepers whereabouts!
Right here!
I have read "A day with ET" now at least 3 times and certain parts of it over and over.
So this post is for Sleeper:
I want to hear more and in as much detail as you can give us. It's all hitting home on many levels and I'm not sure why. Everything you post is also especially meaningful to me and I'm not sure why..?
The reference to people as "containers' is something I heard before probably at the age of 5 or 6. (I took it to mean humans but interpreted it to include all animals and living creatures.)
Another topic that was not covered in the book which I feel might have been deliberately omitted, is that you went through a type of training exercise on this trip. (I don't mean just the recall of past experiences or the becoming acclamated to leaving body or existing in other atmospheres.) Not just a lerning experience but a trining experience. I would be most interested in this part of the trip.
All the best to you.
Thank you so much for your book and your posts.
EBE
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