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zorgon
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Stargate Evidence RevealedOriginally posted 21-6-2006 at 10:52 AM at ATS
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A few months ago I was visiting the home of an artist friend of mine. We were discussing aliens and life on earth, government denial and such... when her 12 year old daughter came into the room...
Out of the blue she made the comment that she thinks the government is trying to tell us whats really going on through TV, namely the popular series Stargate. She is convinced that what we see on Stargate is really happening and it is the government's way of breaking it to us...
I kinda looked at her stunned... {I too have had that though cross my mind before, though originally with films such as Star Trek and Star Wars}
I have since taken a closer look at Stargate... and WOW they have really done their homework... they have researched history and make very plausible explanations of the old "Gods" and things that have appeared even on this board{ATS} as mysteries of the past.
I will point some out over the next few weeks for thought and comment... but imagine my surprise when they aired one episode where they made a series about Stargate within their own show{A spoof}... and then at the end of the show General Hammond comments, when asked if they {the Air Force} should squash the show, that no, leave it alone because if anyone ever hears about the Stargate program we can always point to the TV show...
And this thought is in the mind of a 12 year old?
Over the years TV and movies have always portrayed Aliens and UFO's as something we need to shoot down... then suddenly Aliens are made funny, and even cute...ET, Ewoks etc. Our kids are in love with them.... the adults are coming to accept all kinds of Aliens as nothing to fear.... {sure smacks of a conspiracy here - by the government? Aliens controlling Hollywood?}
Personally the story line of Stargate where we are direct descendants of the Ancients, and are now coming into our own.... rediscovering lost secrets, kicking those old Gods out... is very satisfying. It is also cool, though perhaps a little arrogant, that we get to kick major but and wipe out bad guys around the galaxy, and come back to tell the tale.
But most important, it also explains a LOT about previous civilizations, evolution, the Gods and even covers the next step up the ladder... Ascension - where we evolve into immortal beings of light.
I'm sold... Now to gather the facts and evidence... I am sure others out there agree with this and perhaps you have facts to share in my quest for this new TRUTH
{One last tidbit of trivia. The Alien characters found on the Roswell artifact... same as those shown on the space ship found in the water on X-Files... also appear on the metal beams on Stargate Atlantis when they show exterior views of the city}
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zorgon
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Quote from ATSFrom time to time it will be necessary to add a quote from someone from the other thread as it keeps continuity and may contain important facts, and such posts will be accompanied by full credits. Other times a simple comment on the remark will suffice. It is the intent here to start over with a positive and concise forum to share and gather relevant information.
Posted by kolo_heights, on June 21, 2006 at 13:46 GMT
If anyone hasn't watched Stargate the producers have certainly done their homework. It is firmly based on ancient Egypt and readings of the Anunnaki, reptilian races and many Egyptian Gods.
I have always wondered whether media outlets have a more sinister edge to them. Are Stargate and programs like this propaganda tools, preparing society for something? It's a long shot but not out of this world.
At the very least Stargate puts some very factual and thought-provoking ideologies on some of the worlds best kept mysteries and secrets.
I've been recently reading that there is a Stargate located in a temple in Southern Iraq, thus one of the many reasons Bush went to war. Take that with a pinch of salt, but it gets you thinking...
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Posted by jbondo, on June 21, 2006 at 13:26 GMT
The guy from the mars record said that people went thru stargates to get from planet to planet, namely mars. He described it as a long tunnel leading to a gate. This was located inside of a military complex. I cant remember the rest of the description.
That's not to say I believe any of it and I certainly don't think Stargate the series is any more than a tool to make money. If you want people to keep watching you have to do research and tie things together.
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Posted by nyk537, on June 21, 2006 at 13:08 GMT
I have always had a hunch about that too. That perhaps Hollywood is trying to prepare us for something as well. I was just thinking about this after reading the post and it occurred to me...If Hollywood indeed were trying to push some secret agenda on us, wouldn't someone know? I mean think about it, there are hundreds of people that work on these shows and movies, do you think that the government could be having them create these shows without them knowing what they were doing?
I mean you wouldn't think they would just take a television script from some government agent who says, "Here, make this show/movie about aliens, don't worry about where we got the information, it's not real." How else would they get these ideas? It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What do you think?
I'm sure there may be a simple explanation I'm overlooking out of sheer skepticism of the idea. Let me know.
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zorgon
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| Quote: |
I've been recently reading that there is a Stargate located in a temple in Southern Iraq, thus one of the many reasons Bush went to war. Take that with a pinch of salt, but it gets you thinking... |
If you could point me to that reference I would appreciate it. That is very interesting and IF there was even a shred of truth in it, it would be justification alright... certain fuel for thought...
And that would certainly tied in to Undo's theory of the Sumerian Connection, so even the mere rumor of a gate in Iraq is cause for concern
The old series of Star Trek had a stargate of sorts to. Almost the same exactly except you could actually view the place you were going to after you dialed it. Their's was a time travel one though. "City on the Edge of Forever" was the name of the episode.
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zorgon
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Posted by kipman725, on June 21, 2006 at 13:30 GMT
What strikes me about stargate is how Atlantis is portrayed as the original writings... IE through a gateway. Also ironically there is a stargate episode where a someone who has there memory wiped creates what he saw in the SGC in a TV series subconsiously and the SGC let the TV series continue as it's a good cover as they can deny everything by saying "you got that from the TV!". Very interesting show...
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zorgon
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Re: Quote from ATS | Quote: | | I've been recently reading that there is a Stargate located in a temple in Southern Iraq, thus one of the many reasons Bush went to war. Take that with a pinch of salt, but it gets you thinking... |
Followup:
Here is the info on the rumor of the Stargate in Iraq;
Star Gate Found in Iraq
The Real Reason We Went to War
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zorgon
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| Quote: | | I have always had a hunch about that too. That perhaps Hollywood is trying to prepare us for something as well. I was just thinking about this after reading the post and it occurred to me...If Hollywood indeed were trying to push some secret agenda on us, wouldn't someone know? I mean think about it, there are hundreds of people that work on these shows and movies, do you think that the government could be having them create these shows without them knowing what they were doing? |
Not necessarily. The only people who would have to know is the producer and whoever wrote the script. If the story line is good enough, everyone else would just be working as if it was a normal script. No one would question as to the source of that script. So if someone from say the government wanted to hand off a script like this, all they would need to do is get a producer to co-operate... and pay the bill. I know of very few producers that question the source of their funding to closely.
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I mean you wouldn't think they would just take a television script from some government agent who says, "Here, make this show/movie about aliens, don't worry about where we got the information, it's not real." How else would they get these ideas? It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What do you think? |
Why not? Its a good story LOL...
But now that you mention it... lets have a look at the credits from the show...
In the company credits for the TV Series we find some very interesting references...
Other Companies
* Act One Script Clearance Inc. script research
* David Cowan Enterprises Inc. computer engineering
* Department of the Air Force we gratefully acknowledge the cooperation of
* Energy Film stock footage
* Gastown Post and Transfer post-production services
* Rainmaker Digital Pictures post-production services
* Sharpe Sound Studios Inc. re-recorded by
* Stargate SG-1 Productions Limited Partnership production services provided by
* U.S. Department of Defense we gratefully acknowledge the cooperation
* U.S. Space Command we gratefully acknowledge the cooperation of
While it is true that the Air Force "may" be there simply to advise on USAF tech, proceedure and uniforms, etc. and while it is true that Stargate SG-1 makes the Air force look like super heroes saving the Galaxy...The addition of the other two government departments is at least extremely note worthy!
SOURCE
Now add to that the fact that the US Space Command on their news release stated the following fact, right after their contact information... A great recruitment technique perhaps?
| Quote: | Point of contact
Air Force Space Command
Public Affairs Office
150 Vandenberg St., Suite 1105
Peterson AFB, CO 80914-4500
(719) 554-3731 or DSN 692-3731
In Popular Culture
In the popular TV series Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, the Stargate Program is run by the Air Force Space Command. The AF Space Command Patch was worn on the uniform of personnel aboard the Prometheus, Earth's first operational deep space battle cruiser. |
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zorgon
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Stargate is a science fiction/action film released in 1994, directed by Roland Emmerich and written by Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich, with a soundtrack by David Arnold.
It was originally intended as the start of a movie franchise, but creators Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin were distracted by Independence Day. Instead, it inspired the television series Stargate SG-1, still in production as of 2006, as well as its new spin-off, Stargate Atlantis, and a poorly-received animated series Stargate Infinity (not considered canon). See Stargate for more about this science fictional universe.
Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin were sued by an Egyptology student for allegedly stealing the storyline as the student had submitted the story to them about ten years before the movie was made (they "rejected" the story at the time). The plaintiff had a respected Egyptologist from Johns Hopkins University vouch for him, since he had put his own theories into the story. The only differences between the story and the movie are slight name variations. The issue was finally settled out of court.
SOURCE
Note: It is noteworthy that this reference has since been edited out of the current page at Wikipedia {as of Aug 28, 2006} As the case was settled out of court calls to the University meet with "No comment" In a way it is sad that this happened, as I would really have loved to interview the student and the professor.
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zorgon
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Time Tunnelanother old TV series that covered the "Gateway" idea was called "Time Tunnel" Like the "City on the Edge of Forever" in Star Trek in the 60's, this was a time portal not a stargate as such. A more modern show called "Sliders" had a vortex gateway that moved between different dimensions.
TIME TUNNEL GATEWAY CONTROL ROOM
SLIDERS WORMHOLE VORTEX OPENING
So within a few variables, the concept has been around for a long...
But the really interesting piece of info that we found was a secret DIA, CIA and other agencies operation called "Project Stargate"
The Military Use of RV, Stargate and the CIA FOIA documents.
Stargate is the collective name for advanced psychic functioning or Remote viewing experiments and programs that were undertaken for twenty years to create a trainable, repeatable and if at all possible, accurate method of psychic spying or information gathering.
Worried by the expansion of Russian research into physic functioning in the late 1960's and early 70's, the American intelligence services took the decision to explore psychic functioning. SRI (Stanford Research institute) were contacted and contracted and the rest is now history!
From 1972 - to its disclosure in 1995 the American Intelligence and military machines used and expanded forms of ESP or psychic functioning for intelligence gathering purposes. For over twenty years this program under the code names of; Scannate, Gondola wish, Sun streak, Centre lane, Grill Flame, & Stargate - the collective name by which the entire program is generally now known.
The agencies involved in this twenty year and $20 M program include a huge assortment of spaghetti soup name agencies like: FBI, CIA, DIA, assorted military and government departments and agencies, many leading science labs and probably many others with names that cant be mentioned by a few select individuals.
SOURCE
So it seems it was our government who first used the term "Stargate", not Hollywood. Combine that with the sponsorship of three government agencies and the mention in the recruitment press release of the Air Force Space Command and you have a very interesting picture indeed
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zorgon
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Posted by Farzai, on June 21, 2006 at 14:38 GMT
I am a Stargate Maintainance Technician up here at Cheyenne Mountain. Aside from the usual polishing and cleaning up of the gate itself- I have gotten to take a few morale rides on it or through it rather.
Ok not really but, the writer/ creators of the show come up here sometimes for inspiration or whatever. My point here is that if you saw these guys, it would squash all theories on the subject- no way that the govn't or whomever is behind this conspiracy would entrust those guys w/anything. Although I could be wrong.
On a side note SG-1 is actually a mop/broom closet.
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zorgon
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On a side note SG-1 is actually is actually a mop/broom closet.
Wow a broom closet? So umm your a maintenance engineer? I just went to the website
https://www.cheyennemountain.af.mil/
Hmmm seems they want to access my computer for info before letting me in:o
I think everyone knows that Cheyenne Mountain base is real, but I am sure they don't keep the star gate there... but then... with that in mind, what better place to hide it?
But one thing I AM sure of, an employee of the base, telling me NOTHING IS GOING ON then as an aside tells me of a broom closet door designated SG-1 is a tad suspicious, no?
You Space Command guys really get me
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zorgon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by nyk537 at ATS
Honestly, do any of you really buy into a "real" stargate in Iraq? |
Well its the first I heard of it so... even I need time to research before I believe. That article Kolo_Heights linked to {Thanks BTW} is interesting at the very least, and at least along the same thought line as I am exploring here, so yes I might "buy into it"
Would be a damn good reason to go to war... better than oil. We wouldn't want a bunch of terrorist mucking about the galaxy screaming Jihad in the name of Earth. That would be very bad for alien relations!
Links from Kolo_Heights;
http://www.exopolitics.org/Study-Paper2.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~sammark4/id138.html
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zorgon
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Space Command Patch
Just before Pjpuas {of ATS} posted the list of sponsors, my first knowledge of the Space Command came from browsing heyenne Mountain where I found the cool patch. Upon a little further thought the space command probably recruits from within top air force people... makes sense... thats why we don't see recruitment ads. :p
but then didn't Gen. O'Neils replacement as head of SG-1 get into the program just that way? I suppose doubters will point out the gov. agencies may only be consultants for accuracy in portraying the military in a good light. {SG-1 certainly makes the AF out to be super heroes with only the good of the planet at heart}, but I don't think those agencies would put their name to it if they didn't have good reasons.
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zorgon
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Posted by Pjpuas, on June 21, 2006 at 16:03 GMT
So it is, thanks Zorgon, I was in such a hurry that I missed it.
Well there you go. Three government agencies. Now I know most
will argue that they are there to make sure that the government
and its agencies are being portrayed to the highest of their standards.
But even if this is the absolute truth, isn't just uber fun thinking of what
could be? Especially with all the possiblities that this show has opened up.
Truly something to ponder about IMHO. :up:
(Updated like 3 seconds after post went thru:)
Haha, Zorgon, cliche i know but, great minds think alike.
Looks like we were on the same exact thought boat there bud. :up:
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zorgon
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A Meeting of MindsPosted by spanishcaravan, on June 21, 2006 at 18:27 GMT
Hey everyone. There was a previous post related to this subject here..
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread197741/pg1
This topic is what attracted me to ats,and caused me to join. IMO,it's the most info i've learned from any other topic on this site. Hope this helps.
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This was the day that the two stargate theories met each other
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zorgon
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Posted by DYepes, on June 21, 2006 at 22:26 GMT
The authors of the Left Behind series created a book called Soon. Towards the end they have a reference to Hollywood being a great ally to the government in helping disinform and rationalizing certain events or even groups. Once its shows in a movie the idea either becomes fantasy to the public, or a certain group is demonized and scrutinzed to the public. When you consider that technology is utilized by the military first, is then handed down to Hollywood, and finally made public you begin to make a lot of connections.
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zorgon
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Recruitment | Quote: | Originally posted by wondernut
I'd go with the cheep advertising bit.
I joined AFROTC in part because I was (am) really into stargate and realized there's alot of things that we as civilians or low ranking enlisted men will never find out about. |
Well certainly the Air Force has a lot of cool toys to play with, and we are pushing the envelope with sub orbital and super sonic planes again. Who knows what else in the near future...
And if any of our conspiracy theories bear any truth at all, you will be able to chase and blow up UFO's, visit Alien Worlds thru worm holes, etc.
So sign up now... then report back to us and tell us what's really going on!
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zorgon
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Posted by sugeshotcha, on June 22, 2006 at 02:32 GMT
I have every episode of Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis ever aired and can tell you you are precisely correct. I was once going to start a thread on here myself about the program but thought I might be the only person who's watched enough Stargate episodes to fully understand the big picture. Many wars and conspiracies and REPTILLIANS are also covered in Stargate episodes and all so are many religions Gods, technologies, etc. With Stargate being produced by MGM (a subsidiary of Freemason created Walt Disney Corporation) it's not hard to see how these guys are trying to desensitize viewers to ALL aspects related to Paranormal/Ancient Civilizations which are ALL covered in Stargate episodes.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Atomic on ATS
Hmmm great plan...create a movie that wasn't very good (once they went through the gate). Then create a TV series on a minor cable channel that appeals to people who already probably believe in aliens. Next film this in Canada so that the US doesn't have as much control. Finally have half the show be tongue in cheek to emphasis the seriousness of the alien threat. |
Firstly, I believe Canada is involved with the Illuminati as much as the US. Look at where the Bilderberg meeting was held this year!!! Secondly, a minor TV series? This show had been going for 9 years and is screened in most western countries including South Africa and Australia, with many seasons being screened at prime time 7:30pm slots in Australia. The series was so popular that they continued with it and created the spinoff series Stargate Atlantis!! None of the show is tongue in cheek except when Jack O'neil was still acting where he'd make a few jokes in addition to Daniel Jackson which is part of the process used to engage an audience and keep them watching the other stuff.
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zorgon
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| Quote: | | First of, where the hell did you ever heard of a stargate? |
Well actually if you must know it was from a friend of mine at Nellis, but he used the term "space portal"
| Quote: | Only from someone that heard it from dubious sources, or in a website claiming that the US went to Iraq in part to claim it for theirselves. Ok, now what? The fountain of youth in Iran? Please, gimme a break.
Coincidentaly it seems that the Sumerians used to live in the current Iraq. Someone found a drawing of a ring with people around, and wow it's a stargate. Plus, many people read somewhere that there's a dig site in Iraq and they found a Stargate. |
Wow you seem to have more sources to this info than I do. Seems your disproving your own point.
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These are my 2cents, and if I were you I would take all that crap with a grain of salt. |
Getting the salt shaker...
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zorgon
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Stargate IraqPosted by nyk537, on June 22, 2006 at 07:37 GMT
I still can't seem to wrap my mind around there being an actual stargate in Iraq. Granted that would be an excellent reason to go to war, but are we to believe the people in Iraq have had access to a stargate for ??? years and haven't been using it? Or what could be a more interesting topic...How do we know they haven't been using it? What could they have been using it for?
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Posted by elevatedone, on June 22, 2006 at 09:02 GMT
| Quote: | Originally posted by jbondo on ATS
The guy from the mars record said that people went thru stargates to get from planet to planet, namely mars. He described it as a long tunnel leading to a gate. This was located inside of a military complex. I cant remember the rest of the description |
*ahem*.... *cough* wright patterson AFB, Dayton OH. *ahem* *cough*
oh excuse me, terrible cough there...
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Posted by stumason, on June 22, 2006 at 07:57 GMT
| Quote: | Originally posted by nyk537
I still can't seem to wrap my mind around there being an actual stargate in Iraq. Granted that would be an excellent reason to go to war, but are we to believe the people in Iraq have had access to a stargate for ??? years and haven't been using it? Or what could be a more interesting topic...How do we know they haven't been using it? What could they have been using it for?  |
Maybe thats where Saddams WMD have gone...
On a more serious note, I have often thought that SG-1 was a sort of cover. Especially since they did they're own episode within the series called Wormhole Extreme.
The USAf are technical advisors apparently, if you check the credits.
Technical advisors on what, exactly? Hmmm....
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Posted by nyk537, on June 22, 2006 at 08:20 GMT
The idea of actually having a stargate seems so cool to me. Wouldn't that be something to have. I'm sure we know how to do something like that, I just don't think we have the technology right now to actually have one. Hey but if we do get one from Iraq, then the good ol' US of A can start spreading our "freedom" all over the universe, not just small earth countries. Let's get the whole UNIVERSE to hate us!!
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Posted by MrMicrophone, on June 22, 2006 at 14:35 GMT
I think that it is interesting that recently the US Airforce gave the producers of the Stargate series an official commendation for "the positive way the US Airforce is portrayed in the series."
Steven Spielberg has a collection of alien implants that he shows to a "selected" few.
Of course I'm a big fan of the cheesy cult classic They Live!
Back to stargates...Tom Horn has a book titled Stargates, verrrry interesting take on the subject.
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Matyas makes an EntrancePosted by Matyas, on June 23, 2006 at 05:55 GMT
First time I have seen your avatar zorgon. Impressive. I don't recognize the family crest though. Perhaps you could drop me a line about it Jus' betwixt us "kings"
Now, about this stargate. Well, actually about the innate wisdom of children, indeed we could learn more by taking the time to listen.
I'll tell you what I have been told, so much of it is true and so much more than we could possibly know.
Have you seen Hellboy? Now THAT was made with true mystic knowledge IMO!
Excellent post your majesty.
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Posted by Dagger, on June 23, 2006 at 15:18 GMT
Wow this is a pretty good thread! I have also always wondered about the connection with the Air Force that both Stargate shows seem to have. But let us not forget the cameos some of the higher ranking Air Force officials have had on the show (can't remember who though...there were a few!) Exciting stuff indeed!
-Dagger
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| Quote: | | I don't think they claim that it is the truth. But if you saw some of the preview shows before each new series began it almost sounded like it at times. "This year you are going to learn a lot about ascension." Almost sounded like they thought they had it all figured out. |
Got it he has, yes? Hmmmm? {heavy on the Yoda accent}
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Posted by LAES YVAN, on June 23, 2006 at 21:10 GMT
Anyone read about Bob Lazar? He is a REAL ex-Area-51 employee, with REAL proof.
He talks about both natural and man made stargates. I think, but cant recall exactly, that he said something about the bermuda triangle and its significance. Also some claims that he knows about the ultimate element that some how help him create a man made stargate or something.. he said also something about a big disaster that may happen some time in the future if more than one man made stargate was operating at the same time.
Anyway, do a google search on Bob Lazar and stargates. Its interesting.
and i have NO DOUBT a LOT of subliminal messages, and other types of "hidden in plain sight" messages exist in the media, television, music, and everywhere.
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Posted by grasshopper, on June 23, 2006 at 21:07 GMT
| Quote: | Originally posted by LAES YVAN
and i have NO DOUBT a LOT of subliminal messages, and other types of "hidden in plain sight" messages exist in the media, television, music, and everywhere. |
The media is how the so-called "shadow government" communicates with each other. Even cartoons are filled with stuff brainwashing our children. The military even bragged about the cartoons they were feeding the people/children in Iraq and claimed it was very effective. I think it is the military who is stuffing so much of this hidden content into shows. I have heard it said by some that if you want to use military equipment like ships etc. in a movie you want to make you have to let them put that kind of stuff into the movie. I have no doubt either.
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I never heard Bob Lazar talk about a Stargate.
I heard Dan Burisch talk about his expermiments with a Stargate, though.
As a matter of fact the Stargate that Dan Burisch was experimenting with is at the base of Frenchman Mt. about 2 miles from my house:
I believe that the 'Stargates In Iraq' story is just another feeble government disinfo canpaign to justify our presence there.
We are not in Iraq for any Stargate. We are in Iraq, at the behest of Israel, to split it up so that it will less of a threat than if it was unified, or at least semi-unified, as it was under Hussein.
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undo
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I don't think it's disinfo although they may use it for that. They probably don't believe the biblical accounts are true anyway and are just manipulating public opinion with them. Problem is, that's how i figured out so much about the past -- from reading the biblcal prophecies and knowing what the symbols meant, specifically.
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zorgon
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| johnlear wrote: |
I heard Dan Burisch talk about his expermiments with a Stargate, though.
As a matter of fact the Stargate that Dan Burisch was experimenting with is at the base of Frenchman Mt. about 2 miles from my house: |
Now that is very interesting... you know of Dan experimenting with Stargates near your home...
And your mentioning his name made me look him up
You will notice in the following epic that HE mentions the Stargate in Irag...
The following article is as far as we can tell a public domain article...
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zorgon
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The Saga of Dr. Dan Burisch
Does the fate of the planet hinge on this man? He says he's only one piece of the puzzle, but others seem to think he is a keystone.
LAS VEGAS, NV (PRWEB) April 28, 2004 -- When it comes to the "Truth is Stranger Than Fiction" department, those following the Dr. Dan Burisch story feel they have found the poster child. Biowarfare, mind-melds with a living extraterrestrial, daily angel visits, designer viruses that incorporate lethal ET strains, stargate transmissions, remote viewing, astrology, Catholic-mysticism, Judaic-kaballa, human subjects, abductions, treaties with extraterrestrials, area-51, abducted when 9 years old, a Ganesh particle that conveys healing and possibly immortality, covert operations, pole shifts, 2012, fate of the planet, black ops, broken bones from heavy-handed handlers, 4" x 1/4" scar up the back of his head. Dr. Burisch has it all.
But who he is and what he is doing is only half the story. The other half is the context of the world in which he lives. He is Dr. Dan Burischin lock-down, but wants to leak information to the outside. Some of his handlers are pro-disclosure, others are avidly anti-disclosure. Add to the mix the world of the Internet where anything can be posted, true or not, at the press of a button, and made available to anyone in the world. Disinformation, genuine leaks, agendas pitted against agendas, infighting. In the midst of this is one forum in particular that has taken an almost cult-like interest in the saga. Some people put nearly everything aside to focus on what is happening next. Jobs take a back seat, family takes second priority -- for the sake of the grandchildren. An insider just posted to the list. Or was it? What clues can be followed to confirm the truth of the story?
Once, and insider told the group that on such and such a day, at such and such an hour, they would be activating the natural stargate at Frenchman's Mountain East of Las Vegas. They even told where they would be on the hillside, and where someone could come and observe from a distance. No one was able to make it on the short notice, but the group did watch a real-time satellite image of the location, and watched as the entire mountain began to "glow" on the screen in front of them from a government web site that is publicly available.
At times they have been patched in and allowed an instant messenger chat with Dr. Burisch himself. Others have actually met with him in person, sometimes with the approval of security, and sometimes without.
One insider was supposedly knocked off for leaking information to the group. Others have been demoted or moved to other jobs where they could not leak sensitive information.
Just who actually is controlling the process on Dr. Burisch's side is not clear. They call themselves Maji 12 or Majestic 12. Some say the Maji in charge of his project are not Illuminati nor Luciferian, though another faction of Maji are.
Somewhere in the mix is a league with a race of extraterrestrials who want what Dr. Dan Burisch has -- instructions on how to make the Ganesh particle, which is purported to have healing and regenerative powers analogous to the Edenic tree of life. If anything, it is keeping Dr. Burisch alive, when his actions towards disclosure would spell an end to his usefulness.
Burisch purports to have received the knowledge for the project in large measure from a telepathic mind-meld with a J-rod extraterrestrial on whom he worked for one year. Day after day for one year, he would suit up and enter a special J-Rodchamber in S4 at Area 51 to have another investigatory medical session with the J-rod. At one point, after a bond of friendship had been forged, the J-rod took him and pulled their heads into contact, and Dan received a download that left him in a coma for several days. The J-rod later expired. He was part of an exchange program.
Another faction called the "rogue aliens" supposedly wants Dr. Burisch dead before he can complete the Lotus Project. The politics between alien races is purported to be even more complex than that between the nations of earth. Also in the mix is a covert group of individuals calling the shots who want to rid the world population of "undesirable" elements in the gene pool. Supposedly, they have, or are in process of creating genetically engineered tools of selective mass destruction that would make Hitler envious.
Dr. Burisch himself is adamantly opposed to such uses of this technology, and his objective is to somehow trick his handlers so that the technology can be used for positive benefit. His magnanimous spirit lends a hero element to the story that generates a loyalty by most of those who follow the story as it unfolds day by day. Others deplore him for even being involved in such projects that in their estimation amount to playing God and messing with human destiny. By his own account, Dr. Burisch'
motivation is to help the human race avoid some of the catastrophes that are slated unless they change from their present course.
March 15, 2005 is the purported deadline for completion of the Lotus project and the signing of a renewed Tau-IX treaty with the ETs, which will up the number of abductions to 10 million per year. These abductions are done unbeknownst to the victim. The tissue, DNA and other samples are extracted in such a way that they are nary traceable, the memory of the event is erased.
Dr. Burisch has recently become the buzz among believers in the ET cover-up by the powers that be. A press release announcing his desire to have a Congressional hearing to tell what he knows was posted on over 6000 web sites, and was featured on Noory's Coast to Coast, Jeff Rense, and Lou Gentile radio shows. Attempts to get Congressional interest in the subject have been in vain. Meanwhile, with each passing day, the window of time gets more narrow, tempers get shorter, as the destiny of the entire planet seems to hinge on this one unfolding saga.
Supposedly, President Bush's spending like there is tomorrow is precisely because he knows there is no tomorrow. His trip to Iraq was to visit a stargate there and try to gain access -- the real reason the U.S. is in Iraq. Quadafi's sudden change of heart had to do with dickering that involved stargate trades. Two shredded document have supposedly been recovered that are memos between President Bush and Dan Burisch. A Ph.D. professional is reviewing them to see if they are authentic.
According to the J-rod "yellow book" that shows past, present, and future developments on earth, the earth is scheduled for a pole shift on 2012 which will decimate the planet. The scoop is that J-rods are actually progeny of earthlings travelling back in time to fix something bad that happened in their history at this period of time. Prior to 2012, the earth goes through a serious of tribulations both natural and man-made. These are a function of choices made by earthlings, but 2012 is set in stone. Dec. 22 to be exact, even down to the very hour. The J-rods supposedly descend from a group of humans that high-tailed it to Mars and then on to a neighboring star system.
Others following the saga do not believe that inhabitable earth comes to an end at 2012, but still think that the work being done by Dr. Burisch could play a pivotal role in helping a positive shift in earth consciousness, with belief in God in tact -- ascribing the survival to God, not human evolutionary technology alone.
Whatever the case, the saga makes for an interesting read, and stirs up good questions about who we are in the universe, and how we should respond to the possibility of extraterrestrials in our midst. As strange as the Dr. Burisch story may sound at first, there are scores of people who believe it is mainly true, and are curious at least, to follow the saga as it unfolds in real time.
by Sterling D. Allan
Greater Things News Service[/quote]
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UnstoppableForce
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Stargates
I'm getting back into this stuff a bit.
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MOTOVTRE
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helmetfire?i just like to share my point of view...tnx
many sci-fi shows and movies are showing us the things that is in reach and already possible, but its hyped up to be only sci-fi that no one can take seriously and when exposed and showed to the world it would be to much to handle for many and we get the "helmetfire" reaction of shook and chaos....
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Vordul
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Anyone know what happened with this?
| Quote: | | Two shredded document have supposedly been recovered that are memos between President Bush and Dan Burisch. A Ph.D. professional is reviewing them to see if they are authentic. |
I`ve watched some youtube videos with this Dan Burisch and read about his ideas and I must say most of it is above my head But I am sure it makes sense to people with more knowledge in this area
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Lyrian
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*Sarcasm alarm on...
Cool, Robbie Williams...is here, Star and Flag...
opppps wrong forum! Sarcasm off*
Zorgon
The Time Tunnel series in the 60s, my father hated at that time any mention of space ships, aliens whatever. But when it was time for the series, he didn't miss, if he could help it, not one of them episodes.
So it's got me thinking about the Brain Washing theory, if a silly (in retrospect) series could do that to my father, what did it do to the more gullible viewer, good or bad, as maybe rated by some person in the shadows?
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One of my favorite Stargate episodes , is the one where someone creates a tv show about the stargate guys. They have a tv show of themselves and it is a way too let the people know whats up. A show within a show within a show, lol. Does anyone think about the possibility of having a stargate in ones own mind?
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| New World Orphan wrote: | | A show within a show within a show, lol. |
This is enlightenment. If life is a play and we are actors on the stage, then how many levels up before it can be "real"?
Or:
How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
Edit to get 'er right!
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stal
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many of the writers/directors/producers of the stargate shows were also involved with the modern version of 'the outer limits'. theres a heap of good stuff in that show, many of the stand alone eps dealing with aliens and technology and such, actualy tie together later on in the series. imo well worth looking into.
some of the guys were also involved in seaquest d.s.v. , which had some interesting ideas like uso's and geneticly modified humans.
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