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Sarentack

People living Underground on Mars?

From what evidence I have seen, (Nasa wont tell you anything and will keep it from you). Mars could very well have a thin atmosphere with little oxygen, I dont think theirs enough oxygen to actually put 2 million people on mars and everyone start taking any breaths of it, but it might be enough to support life on it, as some of the pics I have seen of Mars from John Lear and other sources including Hoagland, theirs water flowing on mars, even though its minimal, theirs also trees and vegetation on it which seems to support the idea that maybe Mars has oxygen on it and a breathable atmosphere. People report that mars has 500 million people living underground on mars, which I dont know if its true but it wouldnt surprise me none based on evidence, well the question is why they living there? Its either 1 of 2 or even both of these scenarios.

#1 Humans cant live on its surface

#2 The Great War which happened with Mars drove them underground to avoid future conflict.

But if you live underground, is their oxygen? does ET's  need oxygen like us humans do?

I would think underground is more livable on mars then anywhere else, from pics we have seen underground tubes, we have seen water seep out of cracks, we know plants exist on its surface in remote locations, and if theirs little atmosphere on Mars to create a greenhouse effect, the temperatures below its surface would have to be much greater I would think, so the theory seems to be there about what goes on underground of the planet.

Imagine going underground of mars and living there where water is not frozen, oxygen is present, and temperatures would be around 50-70 or more degrees, it makes sense when you think about it. We cant do that on earth though for reasons that, it be too hot, plain and simple, but mars is the perfect planet to live underground.
johnlear

Re: People living Underground on Mars?

Quote:
#1 Humans cant live on its surface

#2 The Great War which happened with Mars drove them underground to avoid future conflict.



My opinion is that people, just like us, can and do live on the surface but many do live underground.

I believe Mars has a thin atmosphere and that it is breathable.

There are many lakes and rivers above ground and are not frozen. Mars has temperature similar to earth.

There was no great war. I believe it was some sort of environmental disaster that caused conditions that forced many to live underground. I do not have any details on this.

The U.S. first landed on Mars in 1966 and has many bases there.
chaiyah

Why does NASA misrepresent Mars to us, to this degree?

Add some color to this NASA image--

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA09971

And what I found when I searched through the second-far-right images, upper and lower, which were the most clear and interesting:

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/pia09971ULQ3sm.jpg FARMING

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/pia00971LLQbuildings.jpg

and far-right lower,

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/pia09971base.jpg  AIRPORT

But there's so much more to look at.  I use false color to bring up intermediate grays and see stuff you can't see in black-and-white.

Cheers!

Emily
chaiyah

Yesterday I spent four hours pouring over the version of the original that would accept coloration. NASA's copy demands an RBG tag before it will let anybody mess with it. It's 2400 pixels by 1800 pixels and it finally shows what's going on there, a huge cistern, spillway with a little vegetation and unspecified details.

It is a place, having water and accumulated atmosphere, where life CAN EXIST -- if it does exist anywhere on Mars. This IS the Garden of Eden that Mars has.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/CopyPIA09971.jpg

So, after messing with the colors for a few more hours, I found more details, and this is the message that I have sent to NASA to get them just to take a look at what's coming up.
Quote:

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TO:  NASA  OIG Cyberhotline
Type of complaint: Administrative
Center Affected: Johnson
Program Affected: Mars probes
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Let me refer to my conversation with the Hotline Coordinator Ms. Matthews regarding the DEFICIENT interpretation of your own NASA project photographs with respect to human habitation of Mars.

In "going overboard" to prove a point to my friends at freedomcrowsnest.org FORUM, naturally, when I inspected  Opp974 and pia9971 originals what I expected to find was ARTIFACTS or perhaps old STRUCTURES. Never, live people.

I had already confronted the fact that Mars has an atmosphere despite the fact this is routinely misstated.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/marsreal.jpg

I do not know when Opp974 and Pia9971 were photographed; that is an administrative detail having no bearing on the fact whether life exists there even now.

Since an oxygen atmosphere "settles," the great basin pictured in pia9971 is probably one of very few Martian environments that can support diverse life, having seasonal water and sunlight available to provide some greenery (as you will see) for whoever shows up -- an oasis in the desert.

I was looking, as I said, for artifacts and structures. I got into an argument about an anomalous "structure" on pia9971, and that forced my hand and I had to go the distance and "unwrap" that piece of the picture. Here is the result of that unwrapping, twice in two different monochrome formats.

PIA09971 --



http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/PIA09971FarR.jpg

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/09971LLQfarm.jpg

Opportunity974

http://www.abidemiracles.com/imag...samars/opp974paths&people.jpg

and for general interest

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/nasamars/pia00386mummy.jpg

It appears to me that the days are long past when human beings create visible structures on Mars. Maybe they know better. However, we have a sufficient number of Mars photos -- apparently -- to show the people, themselves.

Isn't that amazing. I'm still flabbergasted. However, this is a work in progress and I have made no final judgments about what I am seeing.

I believe what would be helpful to all of us is a better and more complete sense of galactic history, which I find lacking in our normal discourse and education processes.

The source I do have for galactic history is this one:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8316692185126189734

and the specific references to Mars are here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLk2FjNTw1o

I know of no other credible source of detailed Mars history other than this man, Alex Collier.  But I expect the Majestic program would know.

Yours truly,
M. Emily Cragg, webmaster


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I believe we have a great deal more work to do in this regard.

Emily
chaiyah

John, what is NASA's problem?  

Why can't they "see" Life where there's Life?

Are "compartmentalization" and "need-to-know" so STUPEFYING, that nobody knows nothin'?

I think it's time for me to go back to school.  Maybe Arizona State, eh?  They have a Space Exploration Department.

Never did get my Ph.D.



Chai

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