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zorgon
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Of Sumerians, Anunnaki and Stargates(Ancient) Stargates Are Real by E. Vegh
Hi, I'm an author of 2 books with a third on the way. I'll just share with you some of my research.
(Ancient) Stargates are real: either that or there's several ancient civilizations inside the earth or stuffed in some canyon on the sea floor. Personally, my research leads me to believe the former: et.al, stargates are real. Sounds crazy? Yes, it honestly does, but so does quantum cloning and teleportation, and yet it's happening as we speak. Science is the equivalent of the Twilight Zone, Star Wars and Star Trek, all rolled into one, these days.
If you'd like to inquire as to what I've learned, feel free to ask. If you'd like to debate the possibilities, be my guest. If you'd just like to say I'm wrong, also, do as you will. I don't wish to just dump all this information in your laps so let's just start with the basic premise: (Ancient) Stargates are real.
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UnstoppableForce
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Well, can you tell us what exactly makes you pretty much positive they're real? I've never delved much into the Stargate subject, but I'm curious as to what makes you believe.
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undo
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UF,
Oh boy, thanks for asking!
Ancient history is a good place to start. Have you noticed how about 300 years ago or thereabouts, all our ancient history texts were basically ruled unreliable because they mentioned "supernatural" events? All religious texts, (many of which were historical texts that were simply labelled "religious"), except the hieroglyphs from ancient Egypt, were said to be falsehoods. Using the hieroglyphs, they attempted to set a timeline for ancient history, but ignored everything else. That was a big mistake.
Nearly every ancient civilization refers to a place called the "underworld" and a place called the heavens, both of which appear to be more than simply metaphors for the planets and stars rising and setting into and over the horizon. The ancient Hindus and some of the Buddhists, said the only way to access the upper levels of heaven was via Mt. Meru (also called Mt. Sumeru), which wasn't an actual mountain but a reference to a ziggurat in ancient Sumer (this is the pivotal point, but I don't want to overload your circuits with too much information if you aren't aware of any of these ancient stories). The ancient egyptians also believed in an entrance to the underworld and a boat which travelled on heavenly waters (et.al, a mode of transportation) which carried them into the heavens. The ancient sumerians referred to otherworldly places which were accessed via gateways into the underworld, and gates up to the heavens.
I guess it all depends on how much you know about ancient civilizations and their texts. Do you know anything about ancient Sumer?
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UnstoppableForce
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I know nothing about ancient Sumer. I've only heard a friend of mine speak of it to me before.
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undo
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what really got this theory going was studying ancient Sumer in relation to biblical prophecy. It dawned on me that the biblical bottomless pit and Abzu of sumerian Enki were related somehow. It still hadn't dawned on me, at that point, that it was a stargate. In fact, some people believe all these ancient references to the "underworld" were actually referring to a civilization inside the planet. I don't think so, although both may still be possible, the final issue is whether or not the abyss leads to some place off planet, and i believe it does.
Anyway....
Sumer is modern day Iraq. It was the first civilization, to date. Not the first people, but the first known civilization. The stories about ancient Sumer are written down in their cuneiform cylinder seals, which were really the equivalent of timeless history books.
Other stories were found in the Hindu Mahabarata and the Hebrew Torah and Pseudopigraphia (the Book of Enoch, the Book of Giants, etc). Also, even some of the oldest stories (or histories) from ancient China have echoes of the events that happened back in Sumer and even describe some of the exploits of the biblical Cush and Nimrod.
Cush, I believe, is the equivalent of the Chinese "Shu" or "Shun" and the builder or post deluge refurbisher of the Great Pyramid.
Anyway, back to ancient Sumer. The premiere god of Sumer and Akkadia was Enki (or Ea, or Enki-Ea, all the same guy) . He supposedly built a ziggurat in ancient Sumer but the description of it is FAR from being a ziggurat. It's said to have been composed entirely of silver (not mud bricks covered in silver but entirely of silver and then covered over with gold). Its interior was a "tangled thread beyond understanding", the walls spoke and gave advice, it floated and hovered, and shined so brightly it lit up the area. Oh and it also "roared." It had a door which "seizes" a man. I'm not making this up. It's in their ancient texts (see "Enki and the World Order").
This is not the description of a ziggurat. But if you were to see a depiction of Enki's ziggurat, it would be maybe four floors high, each floor a bit smaller than the one below it, with a glowing "Temple" on top, and have the appearance of a throne (such as the Emperor's throne in the Emperor's Palace, Forbidden City, China) or the typical UFO model (the saucer, but in this case, with squared corners and a lighted, glowing dome on top).
When Enki's "ziggurat" first came here, it emerged from the abyss, the underworld called the Abzu or Apsu (remember these two words as they are the pivot of the stargate theory), and landed in what was to become Sumer. He and his compadres then set about building ancient Sumer. This event is detailed briefly in Genesis 6:4 of the bible, the Book of Enoch and in Enki and the World Order.
What has so many confused is how it could come here from down there. The answer is that the down it came from was a stargate, possibly submerged, definitely underground, but still a stargate.
Anyway, ancient Sumer was ruled by two "brothers" (sons of God), named Enki and Enlil. They were brother Anunnaki. Anunnaki basically means "Sons of Anu and Humans procreating. I interpret them to be the equivalent of the Hindu gods mentioned in the Mahabarata, the old gods of the Egyptians (meaning those that predate Osiris, the Falcon gods)
and the Angels of the biblical texts, albeit the fallen ones.
Are you familar with the Abydos "Osirieon" of ancient Egypt? If not, check it out here: http://www.phouka.com/pharaoh/egypt/photos/abydos/osireon-01.html . It belongs to a group of buildings I think of as the Anunnaki buildings. The reason I believe this will become apparent when you read the information on it. It's undecorated like the Great Pyramid of Cheops or Khufu. It definitely predates the Temple of Seti and it's built underground for a reason that relates directly to what I've already said in this thread.
I personally think there were more stargates than the sumer stargates (at last count, there were at least 2 stargates in Sumer). For example, Tiwanaku (Tiahuanacu, by Lake Titicaca, Peru), not only hosts the Gateway of the Sun, but another "Anunnaki" subterranean building called "The Subterranean Temple", which you can see here (first picture on the top left): http://www.archaeology.org/interactive/tiwanaku/ The walls of the temple feature the faces of various "races" of humans, it's megalithic, very old. I think it housed a stargate at one point.
All of these "subterranean chambers" are not only related to Enki's Abzu stargate but to the "bottomless pit" in the book of Revelation in the bible. (
Revelation 9 ) which is derived from the word "Abyss", which is derived from the word Abzu or Apsu. Read Revelation 9
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B66C009.htm
the biblical account seems to indicate the stargates were all buried under several feet of silt and rock, not to be rediscovered until the end times of planet earth. Enki's gate is still buried (at least until recently).
Something many people are not aware of: Enki's E.ABZU ziggurat was situated on the same exact spot as the later Tower of Babel, which is called the Etemenanki in akkadian and early babylonian. You can read about the Etemenanki here: http://www.livius.org/es-ez/etemenanki/etemenanki.html It was built on the same spot as Enki's "ziggurat", which means it is the location of the bottomless pit of Revelation 9, as well.
A selection of quotes from Enki and the World Order
An artfully made bright crenellation rising out from the abzu was erected for lord Nudimmud. Enki, the lord who determines the fates, built up his temple entirely from silver and lapis lazuli. Its silver and lapis lazuli were the shining daylight. [...]
Its brickwork makes utterances and gives advice. [...]
He built the temple from precious metal, decorated it with lapis lazuli, and covered it abundantly with gold. [...]
As it has been built, as it has been built; as Enki has raised Eridug up, it is an artfully built mountain which floats on the water. (Source is The Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature, University of Oxford, Oriental Institute.)
http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr114.htm
contrary to mainstream archaeology and historians, I believe the ancient texts were not religious in the same way as we view the word today. I believe they were first hand, historical accounts. In one such account, Enki's ziggurat is said to have an upper emplacement in the constellation "The Field," which translates to "somewhere in the Pegasus constellation." I kid you not..
"The shrine's emplacement is situated by the constellation the Field, the holy upper shrine's emplacement faces towards the Chariot constellation."
To translate that into english, consider that the second half of the sentence is a further clarification of the first half of the sentence and not two different places being referred to. The "shrine" is Enki's ziggurat which was sitting on top of a subterranean chamber called the Abzu. This quote is from "Enki and the World Order", an ancient sumerian text, translated by Oriental Institute, University of Oxford and listed on the Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-...l.cgi?text=t.1.1.3&charenc=j#
Anyway, there's more where this came from but i don't want to go too into it until i'm sure you're comfortable with the information so far.
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undo
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p.s. the name of Enki's temple has been translated to mean many things, but essentially the name E.ABZU means it's the throne of the Abzu (the throne of the Abyss).
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