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Lux
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chemtrailsI enjoyed the "John Lear Tells All" video very much. Thank you , John,
for doing that.
I'm interested in what your take on chemtrails is. I searched the forum
on this topic and didn't find much.
In my area it appears that chemtrails are, at least in part, related to weather
control. Do you have any information you can share on chemtrails and their
purpose?
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johnlear
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Re: chemtrails | Lux wrote: | I enjoyed the "John Lear Tells All" video very much. Thank you , John,
for doing that.
I'm interested in what your take on chemtrails is. I searched the forum
on this topic and didn't find much.
In my area it appears that chemtrails are, at least in part, related to weather
control. Do you have any information you can share on chemtrails and their
purpose? |
They are trying to control the alleged warming of the planet by dropping particles that supposedly reflect heat from the sun.
It was supposedly Dr. Edwin Teller's idea.
The problem is that any heating of the earth is a natural cycle and will take care of itself.
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Lux
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Re: chemtrails | johnlear wrote: |
They are trying to control the alleged warming of the planet by dropping particles that supposedly reflect heat from the sun.
It was supposedly Dr. Edwin Teller's idea.
The problem is that any heating of the earth is a natural cycle and will take care of itself. |
That would seem to be a noble endeavor, so why are they keeping it a
secret that they are trying to do it?
That explanation doesn't fit my observations of chemtrails, at least not in
my area where heavy "chemtrailing" always occurs from 1 to 3 days prior
to the arrival of wet weather systems. When no such systems approach,
there are no chemtrails. Then, from 1 to 3 days before a system does
arrive, the chemtrails re-appear. And, there is now a "water shortage" in
my area which leads me to believe that the purpose of the chemtrails is to
create such.
That is, the chemtrails appear to be composed of some sort of desiccant
material that pulls moisture from the air and inhibits rainfall. I first got
this idea when I observed a chemtrail that passed through a natural cloud.
The path of the chemtrail left a cloudless, sky-blue stripe through the main
cloud as if it had caused that part of the cloud to vanish on contact.
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johnlear
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Re: chemtrails | Lux wrote: | | johnlear wrote: |
They are trying to control the alleged warming of the planet by dropping particles that supposedly reflect heat from the sun.
It was supposedly Dr. Edwin Teller's idea.
The problem is that any heating of the earth is a natural cycle and will take care of itself. |
That would seem to be a noble endeavor, so why are they keeping it a
secret that they are trying to do it?
That explanation doesn't fit my observations of chemtrails, at least not in
my area where heavy "chemtrailing" always occurs from 1 to 3 days prior
to the arrival of wet weather systems. When no such systems approach,
there are no chemtrails. Then, from 1 to 3 days before a system does
arrive, the chemtrails re-appear. And, there is now a "water shortage" in
my area which leads me to believe that the purpose of the chemtrails is to
create such.
That is, the chemtrails appear to be composed of some sort of desiccant
material that pulls moisture from the air and inhibits rainfall. I first got
this idea when I observed a chemtrail that passed through a natural cloud.
The path of the chemtrail left a cloudless, sky-blue stripe through the main
cloud as if it had caused that part of the cloud to vanish on contact. |
Your theory and obsevations look far more plausible.
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IronDogg
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Re: chemtrails | johnlear wrote: |
Your theory and obsevations look far more plausible. |
It does? What would be the purpose of eliminating the rains?
Also, what kind of substance could soak up the water droplets without adding any weight to the resulting substance? I take it doesn't rain "mud" after a chemtrail release, so what happens to the moisture molecules after this substance soaks up the moisture in a cloud?
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johnlear
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Re: chemtrails | IronDogg wrote: | | johnlear wrote: |
Your theory and obsevations look far more plausible. |
It does? What would be the purpose of eliminating the rains? |
'They' are creating a food and gasoline shortage. A water shortage would fit right in.
Its just a continued effort to create fear and anxiety to promote unrest and civil disobedience which can be dealt with in nefarious ways.
The ultimate goal is too reduce the population.
But they will not be successful.
| Quote: | | Also, what kind of substance could soak up the water droplets without adding any weight to the resulting substance? I take it doesn't rain "mud" after a chemtrail release, so what happens to the moisture molecules after this substance soaks up the moisture in a cloud? |
Aerogel is one substance that can soak of about 200 times its own weight. We have had that for many years.
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Lux
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Aerogels! Interesting.
In reading a few references on aerogels they also appear to have a
light-scattering property that might account for some odd color phenomena
I've seen with some chemtrails.
Thanks.
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IronDogg
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Yeah that is interesting. I think the aerogels would have to be near nano in scale, but I think the theory is very plausible. Why not? I can't to think that some kind of residue would still fall out of the sky, but maybe the aerogel molecule after it soaks up 200 times its size is still smaller than dust, and is just construed as such.
I have to think that there are more efficient ways to create a water shortage in society though. This style seems so narrowly regionalized, maybe only effecting a single storm front in an area for a relatively short amount of time. Once the front moves out of the area it will build up again and eventually rain anyway... Factors like the price of fuel et al make this not worth it maybe?
TPTB should think of a way to "slowly" drain hoover dam. As the dam levels drop, they could blame the water rationing program on the lack of "re-plenishment" of the reservoir, and create a controlled water shortage. Since Hoover supplies water to L.A. and who knows how many more millions of people, they could create a "water shortage" alot easier and way cheaper that would effect many more people and area. Just my opinionated thoughts though...
Also wouldn't HAARP be much more effective at this strategy than sprinkling expensive aerogel dust? I don't know much about HAARP, but from what little I have read, it seems to control and create all kinds of weather at the push of a button, so why not shut down a weather front too? Big cost and time saver compared to sending up those chemtrail planes...
I would think if those planes are leaving behind legitimate "conspiratorial chemtrails", that they are of a more sinister intention than to simply control weather.
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Lux
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Rainfall in my area (So. Calif.) has been drastically reduced in recent
years. I've lived here for many years and I've never seen (weather-wise)
what I'm seeing now. Big, dark weather systems move into our area
but they drop little or no rain. There are situations where it should be
pouring (per observed weather conditions) but we hardly get a trickle.
There have also been times when I've seen a break in the clouds and
up through the break, above the cloud cover, I can see heavy chemtrails.
So, I presume that they condition the air (i.e., dry it out) before the system
arrives and then continue after it arrives but this action is usually not visible
due to cloud cover. This, I would think, would suck the moisture out of the
system before it has a chance to fall as rain if they are spraying a desiccant.
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IronDogg
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Yes, it is a sound conspiracy theory, and a very interesting one at that, however I just can't wrap my brain around to the reasons as to why use this "archaic", and very expensive method to dry out a weather front as it passes over a region? With the price of fuels, and other rising costs associated with the airlines, what is their reason for drying out a storm front? Can you speculate any wild ideas as to why "they" would use this method to create a water shortage? Like Ive said, there are WAY cheaper, faster, and more efficient ways to create a perfectly controlled water shortage for all of California if they wanted to, so why resort to this uncontrolled, very narrowly regionalized, expensive, slow method to dry out a front?
But if it is all true as you speculate, I was thinking that maybe it was the insurance companies drying out fronts for some kind of anti-mudslide, liability protection they are providing to not have to pay out huge insurance claims when a nature event causes destruction. Then I thought, as if... If there was any "positive" reason for these chemtrails, then it would be mentioned and advertised for their good deeds, so the chemtrails must be sinister in planning. Maybe you dry out specific fronts to create forest fire hazards to fight and snub the insurance companies? I don't know, it is hard to think of reasons to keep it from raining. Obviously there are many reasons to create a water shortage, but why keep it from raining? Vast amount of rain does not cause people to gather water in jugs or whatever, so huge amounts of rain would not make that much of a difference to a "water shortage" in a large urban center. People would still be "dying of thirst" even if it rained everyday...
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Lux
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It's not just done with storm fronts. It's any cloud system.
Example: Skies have been clear (no clouds or chemtrails) in LA for about
a week. Then, yesterday (Monday) we have heavy chemtrails. I look at
the weather forecast and it shows partly cloudy skies for Tues, Wed and
Thurs. That fits the pattern: heavy chemtrails 1-3 days prior to arrival of
weather system.
After the clouds depart there will be no chemtrails until just before the
next system arrives. Happens every time like clockwork.
And, it's NOT the only method they are using to create a drought here.
We normally get much of our water from Northern California and that
source has been reduced via political means as well.
Clear weather = no heavy chemtrails. Heavy chemtrails = cloudy skies 1
to 3 days after. Never fails.
I'm sure it is quite expensive. I'm just telling you what I see, time and
time again, and the weather control explanation is the only one that I
can think of that fits.
It may be completely different in other areas and chemtrails may have
other purposes as well. But, the only factors I observe that fit the
chemtrail pattern here in LA is as I've described.
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