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johnlear
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Norman Bergrun wrote “Ringmakers of Saturn” in which he proposes that the massive objects seen in the Voyager 1 & 2 images of the rings are EMV’s, electromagnetic magnetic vehicles making the rings of Saturn. Norman presents a very strong case using detailed enlargements of these craft, one of which is 30,000 miles long and 2,400 miles in diameter.
Bergruns credentials are impeccable having spent his entire career as an engineer with several of the large aerospace companies. He retired a few years ago after 20 years with Lockheed Missiles & Space Company.
Last summer I attended the Bay Area UFO Conference and went to see Norman who was at Stanford University Hospital recovering from a shoulder injury. He is 85 years old and very sharp and alert. We discussed many things and I asked him if he had any idea where the EMV, which he theorized placed the moon in its rotationally locked orbit around the earth, was. He told me that he thought it was on the farside of the moon.
When Zorgon and Undo began peeling the layers of encryption from the object in the crater Tsiolkovsky I saw what I believe is the EMV that placed the moon in orbit around the earth.
Norman has many sources of information made from a lifetime of associations with those involved in space exploration. I have no doubt that he had a very good source for his belief that the EMV that placed the moon in orbit around the earth was located.
If you have not read Bergrun’s “Ringmakers of Saturn” and understand the scientific research that went into his interpretation of the Voyager images it may be difficult for you to grasp the reality of those EMV vehicles.
But it is my opinion that Bergruns interpretation is accurate. |
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Vril1
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: True face of Tsiolkovsky |
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Hi 
Norman Bergrun do really have a point!
Real true color showing water! - Or another fluidum!
Old Apollo 8 photos in a book from 1969 about the moon, shows water in Tsiolkovsky crater!!
These two files showing Tsiolkovsky, is from a book called : “Bogen om maanen”. The book of Moon. 1969.
The author: Asger Lundbak, was a Phd. Into fysics and working at Niels Bohr Institut. And Copenhagen University.
His own words (with subtlety) of explaining this photo of Tsiolkovsky:
“With tele-optic and colorfilm, the Apollo 8 crew mannaged to take pictures of Tsiolkovsky-crater. Thereby achieving this impressing panorama.
The weakpink conical center is (exept a spur running north towards the observer) completely sorrounded by a blue-greenish and very dark crater-bottom,
Obviously constructed by another chemical composition than the sorroundings.” - !! J
It´s very suspicius that these photos are found at the Lunar And Planetary Institute´s Apollo Image Atlas:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS08-14-2450
with a whole different color-composition and not under the name Tsiolkovsky but named: Farside They have really been doing lots of funny stuffs just to hide the true colors and places of this area!! - Why NASA/JPL ?? And is it legal for you to twist and bent the photos in order to hide a reality you obviously don´t like but seems to be a fact of life! – And try figure out how much time and energy scientists and students world over are spilling because of that false reality of the moon you have created! – Shame on you NASA/JPL (Only the security-cleared people participating in the plot)! – Still wondering can it be legal?
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johnlear
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: True face of Tsiolkovsky |
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| Vril1 wrote: | Hi
Norman Bergrun do really have a point!
Real true color showing water! - Or another fluidum!
Old Apollo 8 photos in a book from 1969 about the moon, shows water in Tsiolkovsky crater!!
These two files showing Tsiolkovsky, is from a book called : “Bogen om maanen”. The book of Moon. 1969.
The author: Asger Lundbak, was a Phd. Into fysics and working at Niels Bohr Institut. And Copenhagen University.
His own words (with subtlety) of explaining this photo of Tsiolkovsky:
– Shame on you NASA/JPL (Only the security-cleared people participating in the plot)! – Still wondering can it be legal? |
Good work Vril1. NASA technically come under the U.S. Department of Defense. Although many times we will hear every photo NASA takes belongs to the public this is not actually true. What they mean is that every photo authorized by the Department of Defense for NASA to release belongs to the public.
It would would be inaccurate to say that "much has been hidden by NASA".
It would be more accurate to say, "Every g** d*** thing has been hidden by NASA." |
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Vril1
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hello. J.L. - everybody
Have just seen the last picture from Kaguya. It´s showing Tsiolkovsky! I´m not shure it´s taken from Japanese Kaguya, it could be another NASA/JPL funny idea!
The diameter for pictures red circel (Crater Rim) is 185km. Outer rim height is 1750 meter And Crater depth is 4.700meter!!! – According to Pike. And Sherman S. C. Wu and Hj. More.(Experimental photogrammetry of lunar images.)
When rising contrast and brightness, some coloring comes forth!!
And another hard evidence of Water/fluidum and structures on the island!!
Think it´s obvious that if the depth of the crater is 4.700 meter!! It must be some kind of fluid we see!! - And not flat concrete with painted cratermarks as shown on most of the Lunar Orbiter-, Apollo 15 - 17 pictures!!
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MOTOVTRE
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: fluid |
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thats def. fluide, i have lived by the sea whole my life and its a shore line with "water.....
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